LOg of OOC meeting 06/10/2017

[Puciek]

11:01:20p | Kinaed queries, "Today's Agenda is:
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11:01:20p | - Staff Updates
11:01:20p | - Player Heartbeat
11:01:20p | - Player Topics
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11:01:20p | Is there anything anyone would like to add to the agenda to make certain we discuss it today?"
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11:01:36p | Kinaed has transferred Kaimana. [OOC]
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11:01:38p | Caterina states, "I have a couple of things I would like to bring up. Not suggestions, just food for thought."
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11:01:44p | Temi gives a pair of miniature ice skates with lacings tied into a bow to Kaimana.
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11:02:02p | Kinaed says to Caterina, "Noted. Please type up your topic introduction so you're ready to go when called upon"
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11:02:38p | Moxie states, "I have a suggestion or two I'd like to make. Sorry Az in advance."
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11:02:49p | Kinaed says to Moxie, "Noted Please pre-type."
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11:02:53p | Kinaed wonders, "Anyone else?"
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11:03:03p | [Action: Kaimana is going to be quiet today ]
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11:03:07p | deaf
11:03:07p | From now on, you won't hear tells.
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11:03:14p | Flaviano shakes his head.
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11:03:15p | Niamh claims to Kaimana, "Ooh, I love your name."
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11:03:16p | Kinaed questions to Kaimana, "Hehe, what if you're not though? "
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11:03:28p | Kaimana grins. "It's kaimana kainalu!"
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11:03:39p | "It's very Hawaiian," Kaimana notes. [Kaimana]
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11:03:50p | Kinaed claims, "Okay, kicking off Staff Updates; I processed the Request Queue last week. Handled a few pboards, no policy. Slow week, but good."
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11:04:09p | Kinaed claims, "I green lighted Assets, which will be officially in game next week."
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11:04:17p | Ibrahim states, "Oh snap"
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11:04:19p | Taunya declares, "Oh wow!"
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11:04:20p | Ibrahim claims, "OH SNAP"
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11:04:26p | Moxie claims, "Woah. Yessss."
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11:04:31p | Moxie states, "We're gonna be so poor."
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11:04:32p | Kinaed claims, "We expect to roll it out on Saturday, so please consider saving some XP for them."
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11:04:34p | emote notes down to break some rules so kinky has some policy cases to settle
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11:04:35p | Bofaha notes down to break some rules so kinky has some policy cases to settle
11:04:35p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
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11:04:42p | Ibrahim questions, "How much XP is it gonna be?"
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11:04:44p | Niamh nods in agreement with Bofaha.
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11:04:51p | sayto Kinaed does that come together with removal of xp to silver?
11:04:52p | Bofaha queries to Kinaed, "Does that come together with removal of xp to silver?"
11:04:52p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
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11:04:53p | Kinaed wonders to Temi, "Do we have general figures?"
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11:04:57p | Kinaed nods at Bofaha.
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11:04:58p | Flaviano asks, "Assets? "
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11:05:06p | Niamh gets the ASSETS spec.
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11:05:07p | Kinaed claims to Flaviano, "There's a spec here somewhere."
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11:05:08p | Ibrahim muses, "And do we get at least a starting asset for basic income?"
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11:05:08p | emote banks out 100k exp into silver, buys out half of lithmore
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11:05:08p | Bofaha banks out 100k exp into silver, buys out half of lithmore
11:05:08p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
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11:05:10p | Niamh gives the ASSETS spec to Flaviano.
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11:05:12p | Kinaed nods at Ibrahim.
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11:05:13p | Temi claims, "I believe xp costs are in the spec, yes."
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11:05:21p | Margaux muses, "Will this xp be refundable on death, out of interest?"
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11:05:30p | Kinaed claims, "So, what will happen is that we will open the asset system for purchase to everyone in game."
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11:05:35p | Kinaed nods at Margaux.
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11:05:41p | Taunya trails off to Niamh, "Was reading that..."
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11:05:43p | Kinaed says, "Yes, assets are refundable."
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11:05:46p | Caterina says, "Can we get those specs again, please? I lost my copy when we had our big crash thingy."
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11:05:48p | Margaux smiles.
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11:06:06p | Niamh has created the ASSETS spec[1].
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11:06:08p | sayto Kinaed maybe a good idea to post specs on forums? Then people can always look them up, no need for heavy ic item
11:06:08p | Niamh gives the ASSETS spec to Caterina.
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11:06:08p | Bofaha queries to Kinaed, "Maybe a good idea to post specs on forums? Then people can always look them up, no need for heavy ic item"
11:06:08p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
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11:06:12p | Caterina claims, "Danke"
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11:06:13p | Ibrahim states, "I am but a lowly freeman looking to make his way in the worrrrld"
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11:06:15p | Vicannia glances at their negative xp... "Bloody medicine."
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11:06:20p | Ibrahim questions, "Can I get a spec plz?"
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11:06:22p | Kinaed says to Bofaha, "I'm lazy, sorry."
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11:06:23p | Kaimana claims, "I need one to m'lady if y'dun mind."
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11:06:28p | Kinaed declaims, "But you can post the spec on the forums!"
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11:06:30p | sayto Kinaed I can do it if you are ok!
11:06:31p | Bofaha exclaims to Kinaed, "I can do it if you are ok!"
11:06:31p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
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11:06:31p | Niamh has created the ASSETS spec[10].
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11:06:34p | emote nod Kinaed
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11:06:34p | Bofaha nod Kinaed
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11:06:35p | get assets
11:06:36p | Niamh gives the ASSETS spec to Ibrahim.
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11:06:36p | Nothing found to get.
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11:06:39p | Niamh gives the ASSETS spec to Kaimana.
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11:06:39p | get assets
11:06:40p | Nothing found to get.
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11:06:41p | Kinaed nods at Bofaha.
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11:06:45p | Temi says to Niamh, "Just drop them"
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11:06:48p | Kinaed states, "I am okay, go for it. I'm just lazy pants."
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11:06:53p | Flaviano nods and smiles, "THANKS!", then looking concerned, "Oooo, it's heavy."
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11:06:55p | Niamh trails off to Temi, "You and your reasonable solutions..."
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11:06:58p | Niamh drops the following:
11:06:58p | ( 8)the ASSETS spec
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11:07:00p | get assets
11:07:01p | Bofaha gets the ASSETS spec.
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11:07:07p | Vicannia gets the ASSETS spec.
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11:07:08p | Ibrahim says, "Oh sweet baby jesus I hadn't seen the new spec"
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11:07:12p | sayto Niamh the insanity of reasons!
11:07:12p | Bofaha declares to Niamh, "The insanity of reasons!"
11:07:12p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
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11:07:14p | Margaux gets the ASSETS spec.
11:07:14p | Nadya gets the ASSETS spec.
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11:07:16p | Kinaed says, "Okay, I think that's it for me. Az, you're up. "
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11:07:19p | Vlora starts to move towards the south and west.
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11:07:23p | Vlora gets the ASSETS spec.
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11:07:24p | Vlora slows to a halt.
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11:07:27p | Azarial says, "Let's see, an assortment of attunement bugs, string output issues, a crash I think, some polish on assets, and more poking at roles to try and masssage them into something that looks enough like guilds that it should be sorta painless to replace all of the guild references in the source. note that asset returns will be tweaked as required to get the economy up to where we want it to be."
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11:08:06p | Ibrahim questions, "Hum, so you can only buy assets with xp? Can't purchase them with silver made from say a shop?"
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11:08:06p | Kinaed trails off, "Just having a quick look at changes..."
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11:08:08p | Azarial claims, "I think I have all of the assorted undocumented changes back in from the rollback."
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11:08:09p | Moxie puts up her hand and asks, without being called upon, "What are roles?"
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11:08:14p | Kaimana gets the ASSETS spec.
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11:08:25p | Azarial states, "Assets need to be in the amrket to buy them for silver"
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11:08:32p | Kinaed claims, "You would all have noted we have a new spell in game last week, I suppose. I think everything else was said."
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11:08:47p | Kinaed states to Moxie, "Sec."
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11:08:50p | Temi says, "There's the IC asset market for buying with silver."
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11:08:59p | Ibrahim begins to count their money.
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11:09:00p | Temi says, "We'll have to populate it after the initial grab."
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11:09:03p | Kinaed has created Roles Spec[20].
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11:09:07p | Kinaed drops the following:
11:09:07p | ( 20)Roles Spec
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11:09:09p | get roles
11:09:10p | Bofaha gets Roles Spec.
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11:09:12p | Caterina gets Roles Spec.
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11:09:12p | Kaimana gets Roles Spec.
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11:09:13p | Azarial claims, "Roles are a better way to package up the odds and ends guilds require so that when people feel conmpelled to redo the ranks every week I do not have to continually recompile."
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11:09:15p | Vlora gets Roles Spec.
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11:09:15p | sayto Kinaed okay to publish that one too?
11:09:16p | Bofaha queries to Kinaed, "Okay to publish that one too?"
11:09:16p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
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11:09:24p | Kinaed says to Bofaha, "Sure is, yep"
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11:09:36p | Taunya gets Roles Spec.
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11:10:04p | Kinaed states, "Any spec I hand out at OOC Chat should be considered public knowledge, and it's fine to post them, talk about them, etc."
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11:10:13p | Azarial states, "Once the basic system is stable and working, rostered sops will be converted to assets."
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11:10:17p | Temi claims, "But no guaranteees they won't change."
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11:10:22p | Raemont gets Roles Spec.
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11:10:27p | Moxie gets Roles Spec.
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11:10:27p | Temi states, "Especially if you guys give good feedback."
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11:10:28p | Kinaed nods at Temi.
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11:10:29p | Nadya gets Roles Spec.
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11:10:35p | Kinaed claims, "As has happened before"
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11:10:43p | Kinaed states, "The roles spec is ANCIENT."
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11:10:49p | Kinaed says, "I think it's a few years old."
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11:10:55p | Ibrahim states, "I have a question about the assets implementation, when appropriate for me to ask"
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11:10:58p | Kinaed nods at Ibrahim.
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11:11:12p | Flaviano gets Roles Spec.
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11:11:13p |
11:11:13p | Kinaed states, "Vicannia's asked for a few minutes at the end focused on asset questions, so I'll do that and note Ibrahim has a question."
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11:11:22p | Ibrahim nods.
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11:11:26p | Kinaed states, "If we can move on - thanks Azarial! - Temi, your turn. "
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11:11:27p | Azarial states, "Mail profiles ended up forcing roles, but it is proving a bit more expansive than I had anticipated."
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11:11:43p | Nadya drops Roles Spec.
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11:11:50p | Temi claims, "Not a whole lot all week, but today I've been working on testing assets."
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11:11:59p | Kinaed nods at Temi.
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11:12:18p | Temi states, "You'll note we spun up a test instance so all the crashing has been happening there rather than here, for this particular time, even if we can't keep it up all the time."
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11:12:29p | emote is jelous of temi, getting all the sexy changes before plebs does
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11:12:29p | Bofaha is jelous of temi, getting all the sexy changes before plebs does
11:12:29p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
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11:12:47p | Eirian exclaims, "Much appreciated, I'm sure!"
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11:12:52p | Temi states, "And.. I will be continuing with that today and this week, getting everything finally ready for you guys."
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11:13:00p | Temi states, "I will specify - we're not releasing with objects."
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11:13:15p | Temi claims, "We're going to add those once we see how things play out. It'll be silver to start."
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11:13:39p | Moxie wonders, "Objects?"
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11:13:42p | Temi says, "And that's about what I've done."
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11:13:50p | Kinaed states to Moxie, "Have a read of the spec."
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11:13:53p | Moxie nods.
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11:13:57p | Kinaed states to Niamh, "You're up "
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11:14:05p | Niamh says, "This week I did another couple rounds of mage ash testing and did an audit (of sorts) for Voidsense -- the latter entailed testing spells to make sure that everything which should pinging Voidsense does so. I removed the Softbound Ledger recipe from Artwork due to theme issues and moved the Hardbound Ledger down several skill ranks. I can't remember if it was this week or last week, but I finished the Stockades Spec. Also made some excellent progress on Mounted Combat. "
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11:14:13p | Moxie stands up.
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11:14:15p | Moxie starts to move towards the south and west.
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11:14:23p | Niamh pontificates, "And that's it!"
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11:14:28p | Caterina pontificates, "Woo!"
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11:14:36p | Temi says, "Oh, I remembered something else."
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11:14:41p | sayto Niamh stockade? I don't want that in, I will be a permament occupier...
11:14:42p | Bofaha trails off to Niamh, "Stockade? I don't want that in, I will be a permament occupier..."
11:14:42p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
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11:14:43p | Moxie gets the ASSETS spec.
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11:14:50p | Niamh states to Bofaha, "I named the spec after you."
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11:14:52p | Kinaed twitches her ears to Temi.
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11:14:55p | grin Niamh
11:14:55p | Bofaha grins at Niamh.
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11:14:57p | Niamh exclaims, "(Not really, but it would've been great!)"
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11:14:59p | Niamh grins at Bofaha.
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11:15:09p | Temi claims, "I also added in some placeholder items in shops where items can restock."
11:15:09p |
11:15:40p | emote muses philosophically "Well, free vegetables..."
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11:15:40p | Bofaha muses philosophically "Well, free vegetables..."
11:15:40p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
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11:15:46p | Temi claims, "The ones that can be a variety of items. I think we're planning on extending that further to all the restocks, so you can see what will load up somewhere, even if there's none available right now."
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11:15:50p | Kinaed states, "Oh yeah. We realized people didn't always know where restocks of rare items happen, so we made it so players should see restocks in shops."
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11:15:52p |
11:15:52p | Eirian queries, "I'm not sure what that means. Like, if there are none of that thing available, does it show 0 or something?"
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11:15:58p | Kinaed questions to Niamh, "Did you finish your side of that too?"
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11:16:00p | Taunya states to Niamh, "Yay mounted combat. Hope it'll play well with my horse archer stuff."
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11:16:09p | Niamh says to Kinaed, "I don't think I had one. Temi mentioned she'd be sorting it."
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11:16:29p | Temi claims, "I'll finish up the others this week still then."
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11:16:32p | Kinaed says to Eirian, "If it's not available, it will show as a display item."
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11:16:37p | Kinaed nods at Temi.
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11:16:40p | Eirian states, "Gotcha."
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11:16:56p | say to the hunger games for rare respawns may now begin
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11:16:56p | Bofaha claims, "To the hunger games for rare respawns may now begin"
11:16:56p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
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11:16:58p | Kinaed says, "I think that's it for Staff Updates. "
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11:17:00p | Taunya says, "Ahh, I saw that on help news, but didn't see any sign of that in the shops *nods*"
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11:17:01p | Temi states, "But anyways, like at Daylin's Gems, there's now an item in list: [ 1] [ DISPLAY ] displays of rare stock in interesting gems [High Economics]"
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11:17:17p |
11:17:17p | Caterina claims, "INTERESTING GEMS are interesting."
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11:17:20p | Eirian states, "Cool."
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11:17:28p | Empena is idle.
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11:17:30p | Kinaed questions, "Next - Player Heartbeat! How was RP this week, folks? Game fun?"
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11:17:33p | Empena is no longer idle.
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11:17:38p | Empena has returned from AFK.
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11:17:42p | Vlora says, "A bit alarmed at a few of the recent leavers. "
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11:17:47p | Kinaed nods at Vlora.
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11:17:48p |
11:17:48p | Kaimana has been super burnt out but is slowly getting back in the groove.
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11:17:52p | Moxie nods at Vlora.
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11:18:05p | Lance says, "Yeah, I kinda got bummed out over that as well."
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11:18:07p | Kinaed states to Vlora, "People don't like change, but progress needs to be made. Obviously, people can and do vote with their feet."
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11:18:10p | Caterina exclaims, "It was super! No big complaints. Happy clam over here. Shout-out to Eirian for fun party times for the New Year. IC events are always great!"
11:18:10p |
11:18:18p | Kinaed nods at Caterina.
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11:18:21p | say slooow start of the week, and then quite a bit of conflict started brewing. A bit annoyed that I can't catch some folk to rp with and follow with old plots, so started many new ones
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11:18:22p | Bofaha states, "Slooow start of the week, and then quite a bit of conflict started brewing. A bit annoyed that I can't catch some folk to rp with and follow with old plots, so started many new ones "
11:18:22p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
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11:18:30p | Kinaed exclaims, "Yes, a thank you from Staff to Eirian for running yet another event!"
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11:18:35p |
11:18:35p | Eirian claims, "Thanks to everyone who attended the event on Wednesday. I've been a little behind on my recommendations, but I appreciate everyone who stopped by -- even if I couldn't keep up with ALL the emotes."
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11:18:36p | Ibrahim queries, "Who left?"
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11:18:42p |
11:18:42p | Taunya states, "I've got several threads of RP going, a bit slow, but should be fun when they progress a bit more."
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11:18:43p | Moxie claims, "Really fun. Eirian hosted a party, and everything about it was really well hosted and thought out. There's been some good roleplay with the Tubori re: racism, but there aren't a lot of players who enforce laws at the moment."
11:18:43p |
11:18:47p | Kinaed says to Ibrahim, "Jakob and Rimilde, but Rimilde returned."
11:18:47p |
11:19:00p |
11:19:00p | Nadya claims, "A bit shocked at recent leavings, but overall good. I feel like people here are not only strong enough RPwise to pick up the slack, but also do good with the conflict that'll ensue."
11:19:00p |
11:19:02p |
11:19:02p | Vlora questions, "Oh she did?"
11:19:02p |
11:19:04p | sayto Moxie that is why normal folk carry knives too!
11:19:04p | Bofaha pontificates to Moxie, "That is why normal folk carry knives too!"
11:19:04p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:19:04p |
11:19:06p | Kinaed nods at Vlora.
11:19:06p |
11:19:06p |
11:19:06p | Kaimana currently doesn't have much on any of his alts. hnd, and unsure how to go about things.
11:19:06p |
11:19:12p |
11:19:12p | Ibrahim states, "Yeah they came back and took their post down like it never happened."
11:19:12p |
11:19:14p |
11:19:14p | Vicannia nods in agreeance with Vlora "Bit shocked about that as well, not entirely surprised but still shocked. But aside from that, rp has been rather fun this week. Logged on to check mail, had no plan of rping, but ended up in a roughly 4 hour scene. Earned jack diddly squat in terms of xp from it, but it was fun."
11:19:14p |
11:19:24p |
11:19:24p | Vlora cheers that the reeves ain't dead!
11:19:24p |
11:19:42p | Kinaed states to Vlora, "It'd take more than one person leaving to kill a guild, friend."
11:19:42p |
11:19:52p |
11:19:52p | Vlora claims, "True. "
11:19:52p |
11:20:10p |
11:20:10p | Moxie asks, "What's that leaving quote about planting seeds, Caterina?"
11:20:10p |
11:20:18p | Vicannia questions to Kinaed, "Do you actually know it was because of changes that they left?"
11:20:18p |
11:20:26p |
11:20:26p | Kaimana says, "That's sad."
11:20:26p |
11:20:40p |
11:20:40p | Kinaed queries, "Anything shitting people about the game at the moment that staff should know about? Besides Purchase Silver going away, because we expect people to be upset, but it's a necessary evil?"
11:20:40p |
11:20:40p |
11:20:40p | Flaviano "As a Newb, I have been really enjoying my encounters with different chars. I am learning that I have the sense of direction of of a blind gerbil. People have been really helpful and tolerant of my questions, though... I think." Flaviano points out
11:20:40p |
11:20:43p |
11:20:43p | Temi says, "We did get a note from Jakob about his reasons."
11:20:43p |
11:20:49p | Kinaed nods at Temi.
11:20:49p |
11:21:06p |
11:21:06p | Caterina claims, "Oh crap. Veilus was the one who got all deep about it. Um. I forget. But it was a very philosophical seed quote."
11:21:06p |
11:21:07p | emote sleepingly mumbles towards /flaviano about beer
11:21:07p |
11:21:07p | Bofaha sleepingly mumbles towards Flaviano about beer
11:21:07p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:21:07p |
11:21:17p |
11:21:17p | Caterina exclaims, "Flaviano, you're doing great! "
11:21:17p |
11:21:28p | Taunya declares to Flaviano, "Always happy to help if you need it!"
11:21:28p |
11:21:42p | Kinaed says to Vicannia, "Jakob wrote a very polite mail saying it was because of the change to Will to Power and a general feeling that staff were against mages."
11:21:42p |
11:21:53p |
11:21:53p | Moxie claims, "Flaviano is a good player. I'll seek you out, myself or an alt, for a scene Flav-e-flav."
11:21:53p |
11:22:00p | Kinaed declares to Flaviano, "I'm glad you've been having fun!"
11:22:00p |
11:22:20p |
11:22:20p | Kaimana claims, "Alessandro is always up for RP usually. So I'll try and make time for scenes."
11:22:20p |
11:22:22p |
11:22:22p | Vlora states, "Otherwise, loads of fun on this character. Getting involved in so much goop."
11:22:22p |
11:22:24p | sayto Kinaed doesn't that change like every few months whos side staff is on apparently?
11:22:24p | Empena waves to Flaviano.
11:22:24p | Bofaha muses to Kinaed, "Doesn't that change like every few months whos side staff is on apparently?"
11:22:24p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:22:24p |
11:22:29p | say Make your mind already!
11:22:30p |
11:22:30p | Bofaha declares, "Make your mind already!"
11:22:30p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:22:30p |
11:22:38p | Kinaed says to Bofaha, "Probably. "
11:22:38p |
11:22:40p | emote cackles with madness
11:22:40p |
11:22:40p | Bofaha cackles with madness
11:22:40p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:22:40p |
11:22:44p |
11:22:44p | Ibrahim says, "Changes have sort've gone both ways over time. Unfortunately, folks tend to get a bit worked up if a change negatively impacts them, which is kind've understandable."
11:22:44p |
11:22:46p | Vicannia states to Kinaed, "Just had wanted to check. I know it's easy with the amount of changes recently to blame changes for the reason people are leaving, though that shouldn't be the first thing we jump but, but if he provided reasoning then ignore me as I wasn't aware."
11:22:46p |
11:22:46p |
11:22:46p | Taunya says, "Honestly, it says right in the character generation that playing a mage 'will' get you killed. and it hasn't been such a guarantee for a long time."
11:22:46p |
11:22:48p |
11:22:48p | Eirian states, "As someone who played probably the most maxed out mage for several years, I think the change to Will to Power was a long time coming -- and ultimately probably for the best."
11:22:48p |
11:23:01p |
11:23:01p | Kinaed states, "No other Player Heartbeat material? If not, I'm happy to move to Player Topics. "
11:23:01p |
11:23:03p |
11:23:03p | Eirian states, "It was OP. ^_^"
11:23:03p |
11:23:09p |
11:23:09p | Ibrahim says, "Indeed it was"
11:23:09p |
11:23:12p |
11:23:12p | Kaimana says, "It was super op."
11:23:12p |
11:23:19p |
11:23:19p | Vicannia claims, "Will to power, what little I used it, was quite over powered."
11:23:19p |
11:23:22p | Niamh nods in agreement.
11:23:22p |
11:23:25p | say oh my int wimp suddenly can lift a mountain, nah not op at all
11:23:25p |
11:23:25p | Bofaha says, "Oh my int wimp suddenly can lift a mountain, nah not op at all"
11:23:25p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:23:25p |
11:23:30p |
11:23:30p | Moxie asks, "What is this 'will to power' thing?"
11:23:30p |
11:23:37p |
11:23:37p | Vlora claims, "Dirty mages, Moxie. "
11:23:37p |
11:23:47p |
11:23:47p | Flaviano gives two big thumbs up, and potatoes for everyone.
11:23:47p |
11:23:47p |
11:23:47p | Ibrahim claims, "Some mages used to roll characters completely gimped on strength, dex, and con, and overpower their mental stats"
11:23:47p |
11:23:49p |
11:23:49p | Empena states, "I have a thought for later, if there is time."
11:23:49p |
11:23:49p | Vicannia claims to Moxie, "It's a spell. Swapped certain stats."
11:23:49p |
11:23:53p | Kinaed says to Moxie, "It was a spell that filled in your str, con, and dex with your int/wis or something like that."
11:23:53p |
11:23:53p | Ibrahim claims, "Then use WtP to take advantage of that"
11:23:53p |
11:23:53p |
11:23:53p | Niamh says, "It's still pretty beefy for the lowest level spell of its kind, but it's at least sane now."
11:23:53p |
11:24:03p |
11:24:03p | Nadya claims, "Dirty, nasty mages."
11:24:03p |
11:24:04p |
11:24:04p | Caterina says, "Yeah, let's not talk mage mechanics too deeply please. I like being in the dark about it both IC and OOC."
11:24:04p |
11:24:06p |
11:24:06p | Moxie says, "Ah, thanks."
11:24:06p |
11:24:11p |
11:24:11p | Caterina knows nothing. Like Jon Snow.
11:24:11p |
11:24:12p | nod Caterina
11:24:12p | Bofaha nods at Caterina.
11:24:12p |
11:24:21p |
11:24:21p | Ibrahim claims, "Can't really blame them. It's just using the system to its potential. But it was broken."
11:24:21p |
11:24:37p | Moxie nods at Ibrahim.
11:24:37p |
11:24:46p |
11:24:46p | Kinaed claims, "We have no issues with people who made the best of it; we just changed it because we deemed, as most people have said here, the spell to be overpowered."
11:24:46p |
11:25:01p |
11:25:01p | Kinaed exclaims, "Okay, people ready...? Player Topics!"
11:25:01p |
11:25:15p | Kinaed questions to Caterina, "You're up first. Please introduce us to your topic?"
11:25:15p |
11:25:29p |
11:25:29p | Caterina states, "Boom! I just have a couple of things I would like to bring up. Food for thought things that I've noticed this week (and the week before but not as much)."
11:25:29p |
11:25:31p |
11:25:31p | Caterina says, "I would first just like to briefly mention something about the rumors as I've noticed a bit more of this as of late this past week. The 'circle' of the rumor is who is talking about that rumor. So if the rumor is in the Freemen circle, all replies to the rumor should be made from the POV of a freeman. If it's in the Merchants circle, it should be from the POV of a merchant. Nobility, from the POV of a noble, etc. So, for example, if there was a Freeman rumor about how Freemen are great and awesome and kick ass, someone shouldn't be replying to it all like FREEMEN ARE DIRTY, FILTHY BEASTS. Or if there was a noble rumor, someone shouldn't be replying to it like NOBLES ARE PANSIES AND SUCK. These are exaggerated examples, but I'm sure you catch my drift. That is all with that one."
11:25:31p |
11:25:52p | Kinaed nods at Caterina.
11:25:52p |
11:26:02p |
11:26:02p | Caterina says, "The next 'food for thought' is about osays. I've been involved in a lot of group scenes here lately where people were tossing out osays like beads at a Mardi Gras parade (alas, minus the boobies). Please keep in mind that osays are very distracting and break immersion for some people. If you're just dropping an osay to say 'lol' or otherwise comment on the RP or lament your RP skills, that is probably not a good reason to break up a scene. I'm personally of the opinion that 'brb' and 'afk' osays in a huge scene are probably not necessary unless you're the one leading the scene (say at a meeting or party). Otherwise, you can probably just send a tell to the person you're directly RPing with in that big scene to let them know you're going brb or afk for a second. Or even 'I gotta go' osays. You can just as easily excuse yourself ICly. But that's just a personal opinion. You do you."
11:26:02p |
11:26:05p |
11:26:05p | Kinaed states, "Caterina is correct, please check the circle to see where the rumor is floating around."
11:26:05p |
11:26:13p |
11:26:13p | Kinaed questions, "Slow down a moment, Caterina?"
11:26:13p |
11:26:23p |
11:26:23p | Caterina says, "SORRY. Yes. I am slowing down."
11:26:23p |
11:26:26p | Kinaed smiles.
11:26:26p |
11:26:29p |
11:26:29p | Kinaed pontificates, "No worries!"
11:26:29p |
11:26:36p |
11:26:36p | Kinaed questions, "Anyone have any thoughts re: rumors and circles?"
11:26:36p |
11:26:50p |
11:26:50p | Margaux states, "It would be nice if rumor locations could also tied to an appropriate circle. (ie, you get noble rumors popping at the palace, merchant rumors at the golden coin)"
11:26:50p |
11:27:09p |
11:27:09p | Vlora claims, "I've never really thought about it like that - I always thought the circle is sorta' where it came from, and the type of person who spread it. I didn't realise it should stick to those circles."
11:27:09p |
11:27:11p |
11:27:11p | Temi says, "I'd say it doesn't necessarily have to be said by a merchant, said by a freeman, etc, just has to fit with the discussions of it in their circle."
11:27:11p |
11:27:12p | sayto Kinaed I don't think that helpfile explains that at all/well, but yea, and this should help people post more rumors. Also could we maybe remove the restriction of going to raverns to post new ones?
11:27:12p |
11:27:12p | Empena says, "I've a thought sort of related to all that."
11:27:12p | Kinaed nods at Margaux.
11:27:12p |
11:27:12p | Bofaha asks of Kinaed, "I don't think that helpfile explains that at all/well, but yea, and this should help people post more rumors. Also could we maybe remove the restriction of going to raverns to post new ones?"
11:27:12p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:27:12p |
11:27:16p |
11:27:16p | Vicannia queries, "The whole rumor thing seems a bit odd. You are telling me that if someone creates a rumor, labels the circle as freemen and the rumor is about how horrible nobles are, or how great freemen are, no one is allowed to reply with opposition to said rumor, because the topic is the same as the circle?"
11:27:16p |
11:27:24p | Taunya claims to Margaux, "I think that would be nice, but would take a lot of work."
11:27:24p |
11:27:37p | Kinaed claims to Vlora, "Nah, it's supposed to be saying where that rumor is going around, and the theme should reflect the circle."
11:27:37p |
11:27:43p |
11:27:43p | Kinaed says, "I might do a PSA on that so people know."
11:27:43p |
11:27:46p |
11:27:46p | Caterina claims, "You don't have to be in a tavern to post new ones. I post new rumors all over the place."
11:27:46p |
11:27:55p |
11:27:55p | Kaimana states, "Please do. Rumors are still like buah? to me."
11:27:55p |
11:28:10p |
11:28:10p | Nadya says, "Honestly, I create really racist/classist rumors to bring this point up."
11:28:10p |
11:28:11p |
11:28:11p | Robin says, "It would be helpful if you could update HELP RUMOUR to reflect that"
11:28:11p |
11:28:19p |
11:28:19p | Vicannia says, "I've always taken the circles as how one should reply, in terms of speech and wording. Don't want an uppity noble with their fancy speak replying to a lowborn scum freemen rumor"
11:28:19p |
11:28:33p | sayto Caterina you can promote/quash from anywhere, but last time i tried to create a new one, it told me that's not a good place to do so. Granted I was in an outhouse, but stil...
11:28:33p | Bofaha trails off to Caterina, "You can promote/quash from anywhere, but last time i tried to create a new one, it told me that's not a good place to do so. Granted I was in an outhouse, but stil..."
11:28:33p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:28:33p |
11:28:48p |
11:28:48p | Caterina says, "I created a rumor in a back room of a store."
11:28:48p |
11:28:50p |
11:28:50p | Moxie claims, "I think this is a lot of opinion. I'd like this clarified in a help scroll as I hadn't heard this until now."
11:28:50p |
11:28:53p |
11:28:53p | Caterina says, "I was whispering it to myself, I think."
11:29:04p |
11:29:18p | Kinaed nods at Moxie.
11:29:18p |
11:29:26p |
11:29:26p | Kinaed says, "I'll clarify the help file and make a general board post"
11:29:26p |
11:29:30p |
11:29:30p | Nadya states, "I can say it's very strange, creating a freemen-centric rumor, and having weighty noble-type speech, or a nobility-centric rumor, and having the random bum from Iolade put in his two cents."
11:29:30p |
11:29:31p | cheer Kinaed
11:29:32p | Unrecognized command. Perhaps you meant the following:
11:29:32p | carry
11:29:32p |
11:29:32p |
11:29:35p |
11:29:35p | Caterina declares, "Thank you, Kinaed!"
11:29:35p |
11:29:45p | Kinaed nods at Nadya.
11:29:45p |
11:29:48p |
11:29:48p | Caterina says, "And agreed, Nadya."
11:29:48p |
11:29:49p | Moxie nods at Nadya.
11:29:49p |
11:29:57p |
11:29:57p | Caterina states, "Are we ready to move on to the next food for thought? I can repost it."
11:29:57p |
11:30:05p |
11:30:05p | Vicannia nod's in agreeance with Nadya "Exactly, though allowing no opposition because of a topic and circle seems... strange."
11:30:05p |
11:30:23p |
11:30:23p | Nadya says, "Then oppose it in Freemen or Noble style."
11:30:23p |
11:30:28p |
11:30:28p | Caterina says, "Well, Vicannia, if the freemen have a rumor bashing nobles, the nobles can have an opposing rumor. Like the ones right now."
11:30:28p |
11:30:33p |
11:30:33p | Kinaed states, "We want to keep rumors open to participation, but we also want to see different themes play out that are, well, thematic. That won't happen if the perspective of a rumor cycle isn't upheld."
11:30:33p |
11:30:49p |
11:30:49p | Kaimana states, "Personally I just kind of leave it be because frankly to try and be themely with such a comoplex thing is just way too much effort for me."
11:30:49p |
11:30:51p |
11:30:51p | Temi claims, "There's certainly room for a wide variety of opposition. There's definitely freemen who believe in the current system and people staying in their place, as is right and Davite."
11:30:51p |
11:30:55p |
11:30:55p | Kinaed claims, "Another option might be to flag replies with which perspective they're from, but that's a code change."
11:30:55p |
11:31:02p | Kinaed nods at Temi.
11:31:02p |
11:31:25p | Kinaed states to Caterina, "Okay, I think we've probably discussed that enough to get an idea of people's thoughts."
11:31:25p |
11:31:26p | Vicannia wonders to Kinaed, ""So if I play a freemen, who doesn't agree with a freemen circle rumor narrative, I don't have the right for my character to speak up in the rumor mill against it?""
11:31:26p |
11:31:36p | Kinaed wonders to Caterina, "Next one?"
11:31:36p |
11:31:40p |
11:31:40p | Margaux muses, "Perhaps if people could see their 'native' rumors differentiated on the list that would help? (ie, as a noble councilperson, my appropriate rumors would be highlighted or set apart)"
11:31:40p |
11:31:44p | Kinaed states to Vicannia, "No one said that."
11:31:44p |
11:31:51p | sayto Vicannia rumors don't have to come from your character
11:31:51p | Bofaha says to Vicannia, "Rumors don't have to come from your character"
11:31:51p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:31:51p |
11:32:04p | Kinaed nods at Margaux.
11:32:04p |
11:32:22p | Vicannia states to Kinaed, "That is what I'm hearing. The jist of what I'm understanding is that a reply to a rumor can not go against, or opposition, of the original rumor."
11:32:22p |
11:32:23p |
11:32:23p | Temi claims, "Exactly the opposite. They should just keep within the circle, and respond as a freeman, whether they agree or not."
11:32:23p |
11:32:29p |
11:32:29p | Caterina states, "Vicannia, Temi just said the exact opposite of that. Hang on. Let me scroll up."
11:32:29p |
11:32:40p | Ibrahim claims to Vicannia, "It just means that a Noble commenting in a Freeman circle would be odd."
11:32:40p |
11:32:40p |
11:32:40p | Caterina claims, "Temi claims, "There's certainly room for a wide variety of opposition. There's definitely freemen who believe in the current system and people staying in their place, as is right and Davite.""
11:32:40p |
11:32:56p | Nadya says to Vicannia, "What was stated, was that you just need to write from another perspective, in order to sensibly be able to respond and affect that circle. For example, noble-type and freemen-type gossipmongerers (Bar wench/scullery maid) need to be able to deliver lines that make somewhat sense."
11:32:56p |
11:33:02p | Vicannia states to Caterina, "Ah, I had missed that in the amount of replies. Thank you"
11:33:02p |
11:33:06p | Kinaed says to Vicannia, "No staff member said that, we said keep the perspective to the circle of the rumor it was posted in. IE, if it's a noble rumor, post replies as if nobles are talking about it instead of the random freeman who didn't have access to the rumor."
11:33:06p |
11:33:10p |
11:33:10p | Temi declaims, "So a freeman rumor could be 'Down with the nobles!' with opposition 'No, we ought to stay in our places!' but not 'Eww, you disgusting filth be quiet'"
11:33:10p |
11:33:12p |
11:33:12p | Nadya claims, "A freeman would have no issue affecting a freeman topic."
11:33:12p |
11:33:21p |
11:33:21p | Caterina claims, "Exactly, Temi."
11:33:21p |
11:33:33p |
11:33:33p | Caterina says, "ALRIGHT. Next wall o' text incoming."
11:33:33p |
11:33:34p | Kinaed nods at Nadya.
11:33:34p |
11:33:35p |
11:33:35p | Caterina states, "The next 'food for thought' is about osays. I've been involved in a lot of group scenes here lately where people were tossing out osays like beads at a Mardi Gras parade (alas, minus the boobies). Please keep in mind that osays are very distracting and break immersion for some people. If you're just dropping an osay to say 'lol' or otherwise comment on the RP or lament your RP skills, that is probably not a good reason to break up a scene. I'm personally of the opinion that 'brb' and 'afk' osays in a huge scene are probably not necessary unless you're the one leading the scene (say at a meeting or party). Otherwise, you can probably just send a tell to the person you're directly RPing with in that big scene to let them know you're going brb or afk for a second. Or even 'I gotta go' osays. You can just as easily excuse yourself ICly. But that's just a personal opinion. You do you."
11:33:35p |
11:33:40p |
11:33:40p | Moxie claims, "I think the confusion comes from a lot of nobles and gentry mingling with freemen in the game at the moment."
11:33:40p |
11:33:49p | Kinaed nods at Moxie.
11:33:49p |
11:33:57p |
11:33:57p | Kinaed says, "We're too small to make those boundaries more rigid."
11:33:57p |
11:34:00p |
11:34:00p | Moxie says, "To caterina I'm very pro limited osays."
11:34:00p |
11:34:01p |
11:34:01p | Kinaed claims, "Now, OSAYS."
11:34:01p |
11:34:21p |
11:34:21p | Kinaed says, "Thank you for the reminder, Caterina, I agree with you categorically, with the understanding that osays exist because they're necessary."
11:34:21p |
11:34:29p |
11:34:29p | Caterina asks, "Osaaaaays what what. Andruid posted up a great topic on the forum about how to create an immersive RP experience in which they touched on osays and such. I think it's a great read myself. BOOM. Linky: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1357"
11:34:29p |
11:34:29p |
11:34:29p | Moxie claims, "Though sometimes I'm worried a lot of people are sticking to a rigid turns pattern, so I feel I have to excuse myself if I need to go AFK"
11:34:29p |
11:34:54p |
11:34:54p | Eirian states, "I have a blog post and guide to preserving immersion, that discusses things like osays, in case anyone's interested: http://ti-legacy.com/andruid-journal/cr ... xperience/"
11:34:54p |
11:35:02p |
11:35:02p | Nadya says, "I find osays important, if you're going AFK. It helps notify a group you need to leave. However... As for the turn-pattern, I find it necessary."
11:35:02p |
11:35:03p |
11:35:03p | Caterina says, "Lmao Eirian"
11:35:03p |
11:35:08p |
11:35:08p | Eirian chuckles.
11:35:08p |
11:35:16p |
11:35:16p | Vicannia states, "The only times I typically use osay is when I am about to leave a scene. I like to make sure I'm not leaving a scene as someone is about to reply towards my character, as that is annoying when it happens to me.""
11:35:16p |
11:35:17p | Niamh nods at Nadya.
11:35:17p |
11:35:21p |
11:35:21p | Kinaed says, "I think we need something for turn taking like was suggested on the forums, even if it's just 'I'm participating' and 'I'm not' or something. But we're not in a place where that is specced out. I think a staff member has it in their todo list."
11:35:21p |
11:35:22p |
11:35:22p | Nadya claims, "If you don't have a turn pattern, people get lost in the tide with people who can print out paaragraphs at a time."
11:35:22p |
11:35:27p |
11:35:27p | Temi claims, "The stuff that affects your availability as an OOC thing which affecgts IC is entirely valid use of osays."
11:35:27p |
11:35:34p |
11:35:34p | Caterina claims, "Great minds and such. I agree osays are necessary. I have just seen a LOT of them lately. Like things like 'lol' or 'I suck at this'"
11:35:34p |
11:35:38p |
11:35:38p | Temi says, "But please do keep the other stuff down, like throwing out silly comments."
11:35:38p |
11:35:40p |
11:35:40p | Caterina says, "So just wanted to bring it up."
11:35:40p |
11:35:42p |
11:35:42p | Kaimana claims, "I actually am a big fan of free posing especially in large scenes, I cannot wait sometimes for five really long turn takers especially when I have to go, but that's just imo."
11:35:42p |

[Puciek]

11:35:48p | Niamh claims to Caterina, "Argh."
11:35:48p |
11:35:56p |
11:35:56p | Flaviano says, "Omg... so behind... text is moving so quickly."
11:35:56p |
11:36:17p |
11:36:17p | Ibrahim claims, "Turn taking for anything more than 4 players is kind've ridiculous tbh"
11:36:17p |
11:36:19p | Kinaed comforts Flaviano.
11:36:19p |
11:36:23p | say I am a strong turn taker, because this honoers well between people who type fast, and those who don't - and we have both. Sometimes when in a scene without turns someone will refer to me 2 times, without giving me a chance to respond
11:36:24p |
11:36:24p | Bofaha states, "I am a strong turn taker, because this honoers well between people who type fast, and those who don't - and we have both. Sometimes when in a scene without turns someone will refer to me 2 times, without giving me a chance to respond"
11:36:24p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:36:24p |
11:36:24p | Lance says to Flaviano, "This is why I love Mudlet."
11:36:24p |
11:36:25p |
11:36:25p | Niamh says, "Large scenes seem to throw turns out the window, but for the most part, outside of that situation, people tend to stick to it for courtesy's sake."
11:36:25p |
11:36:30p |
11:36:30p | Kaimana states, "There will be a log, Flavie."
11:36:30p |
11:36:31p |
11:36:31p | Taunya says OOCly, "Likely new characters writing things like that? they should get the hang of it as they see how osay is used by others."
11:36:31p |
11:36:37p |
11:36:37p | Nadya claims, "Well, here's the issue. In scenes in which I've interacted with someone pretty fast with text (Directly, not just an acessory to the scene) I've been left behind royally, and the conversation continued like I didn't exist."
11:36:37p |
11:36:48p | Vicannia says to Kaimana, ""I agree. I personally find it fine to pose speaking to people individually, and wait to pose in reply to someone who takes awhile.""
11:36:48p |
11:36:53p | Kinaed has transferred Augustus. [OOC]
11:36:53p |
11:37:04p |
11:37:04p | Caterina states, "I saw something on the forum that suggested in large scenes, so long as three people had posed since the last time you posed, that it was fine to pose again? I tend to not keep to turns in big scenes. I just pose with the person I'm posing with. I'm not talking to 10 people at once."
11:37:04p |
11:37:14p |
11:37:14p | Kaimana says, "I'm probably just being surly today honestly, so sorry if I seem super negative."
11:37:14p |
11:37:22p |
11:37:22p | Niamh gestures wildly to HELP PLACES, too.
11:37:22p |
11:37:23p | say we do have those mini-spots that can be created for personal rp in a larger scene, without having to share your emotes with the world
11:37:23p |
11:37:23p | Bofaha says, "We do have those mini-spots that can be created for personal rp in a larger scene, without having to share your emotes with the world"
11:37:23p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:37:23p |
11:37:24p |
11:37:24p | Kinaed claims, "Turn taking is not enforced on TI, unless someone requests it. I think thats a good balance to allow many play styles to flourish."
11:37:24p |
11:37:26p | grin Niamh
11:37:26p | Bofaha grins at Niamh.
11:37:26p |
11:37:28p | Niamh grins at Bofaha.
11:37:28p |
11:37:31p | Niamh says to Bofaha, "MINDMELD."
11:37:31p |
11:37:33p |
11:37:33p | Moxie says, "Can we please slow down"
11:37:33p |
11:37:37p |
11:37:37p | Taunya nods at Niamh.
11:37:37p |
11:37:41p |
11:37:41p | Vicannia pats Kaimana on the back "You don't seem super negative at all."
11:37:41p |
11:37:47p | Temi gives a pair of miniature ice skates with lacings tied into a bow to Augustus.
11:37:47p |
11:38:14p |
11:38:14p | Nadya wonders, "I meant turn-taking when you're talking to direct groups, as opposed to the entire scene. I figured that was kinda... Already understood? Who's gonna wait for the silly maid who's not interacting to respond?"
11:38:14p |
11:38:18p |
11:38:18p | Moxie clears her throat. "Sorry, thanks..."
11:38:18p |
11:38:23p |
11:38:23p | Nadya says, "Sorry."
11:38:23p |
11:38:26p | Kinaed nods at Nadya.
11:38:26p |
11:38:35p |
11:38:35p | Eirian says, "Using osays to ask folks in your conversation group to slow down is, IMO, an acceptable use of osays."
11:38:35p |
11:38:47p | Kinaed nods at Eirian.
11:38:47p |
11:38:54p |
11:38:54p | Moxie makes finger guns at Eirian.
11:38:54p |
11:39:11p |
11:39:11p | Caterina declaims, "I AM FINISHED. That is all. Thanks, guys!"
11:39:11p |
11:39:14p | Kinaed smiles.
11:39:14p |
11:39:22p |
11:39:22p | Ibrahim says, "You just need some sunglasses now Moxie"
11:39:22p |
11:39:31p | sayto Moxie or some snugglasses!
11:39:32p | Bofaha declaims to Moxie, "Or some snugglasses!"
11:39:32p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:39:32p |
11:39:34p |
11:39:34p | Kinaed claims, "Okay, Moxie, you're up next. Please introduce your topics one at a time, let us discuss a little, etc, then the next"
11:39:34p |
11:39:53p |
11:39:53p | Moxie marches over to the soap box.
11:39:53p |
11:39:58p |
11:39:58p | Moxie says, "Popular topic alert: I'd like to request a few things regarding shop management. It's killing me to rearrange the back room then run through two rooms to get to the front to see if it's all in order, then find something at the bottom of the stack is out of order. My proposals are:
11:39:58p |
11:39:58p | * The ability to view LIST from the storeroom to check the layout is okay.
11:39:58p |
11:39:58p | *A rearrange <room item> [up|down|#] sort of ability to rearrange room items in the stack, which would make shop sorting easier.
11:39:58p | "
11:39:58p |
11:40:01p |
11:40:01p | Ibrahim claims, "Oh my, topics plural. We've got a lot of discussion this meeting."
11:40:01p |
11:40:31p |
11:40:31p | Vicannia trails off, "Those would be nice additions..."
11:40:31p |
11:40:32p |
11:40:32p | Kinaed states, "I think that's something people have asked for before, and i thought we said yes, so it either isn't built yet, or it is and you just don't know about it."
11:40:32p |
11:40:38p |
11:40:38p | Ibrahim states, "...man, being able to rearrange would be rather awesome"
11:40:38p |
11:40:40p |
11:40:40p | Eirian claims, "I think we had a proposal for rearranging items in any room. Don't see why it would have to be limited to shops."
11:40:40p |
11:40:43p |
11:40:43p | Caterina says, "For the love of baby Jesus please. I never want to organize a shop again. Everyone go look at the Tradepost and admire my lovely work so I can feel accomplished."
11:40:43p |
11:40:45p | Kinaed nods at Eirian.
11:40:45p |
11:40:46p | Temi wonders to Kinaed, "You gave it to a staffer to write.. Mika?"
11:40:46p |
11:40:51p |
11:40:51p | Temi claims, "And it didn't happen before she had to step down"
11:40:51p |
11:41:04p |
11:41:04p | Kinaed says, "Well, let's re-prioritize that. *makes a note*"
11:41:04p |
11:41:04p | Moxie says, "I agree, Eirian, the proposal isn't to limit for shops."
11:41:04p |
11:41:08p | Kinaed asks of Moxie, "Next topic?"
11:41:08p |
11:41:19p |
11:41:19p | Eirian would love to see that feature implemented.
11:41:19p |
11:41:33p | Kinaed nods at Eirian.
11:41:33p |
11:41:38p |
11:41:38p | Moxie states, "I'd also like to suggest inventory items room so we can see what the keywords are for items in a room. There's been quite a few things where items are untakeable because the key word wasn't obvious."
11:41:38p |
11:41:54p |
11:41:54p | Kinaed claims, "Seems reasonable."
11:41:54p |
11:41:58p |
11:41:58p | Ibrahim states, "I actually don't like that"
11:41:58p |
11:42:09p |
11:42:09p | Moxie muses, "What's not to like?"
11:42:09p |
11:42:11p |
11:42:11p | Ibrahim questions, "May I take a moment to explain?"
11:42:11p |
11:42:13p |
11:42:13p | Caterina agrees with all of this.
11:42:13p |
11:42:15p | Moxie nods.
11:42:15p |
11:42:18p | Kinaed states to Ibrahim, "Why? I'm a big fan, including having building standards, that if a person can see it, they should be able to interact with it."
11:42:18p |
11:42:20p | Taunya states to Ibrahim, "I'm listening."
11:42:20p |
11:42:26p |
11:42:26p | Eirian says, "For top-level keywords, that seems okay. But maybe not for ALL keywords attached to extra descs and things."
11:42:26p |
11:42:28p | emote grabs popcorn
11:42:28p |
11:42:28p | Bofaha grabs popcorn
11:42:28p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:42:28p |
11:42:34p | Kinaed nods at Eirian.
11:42:34p |
11:42:39p |
11:42:39p | Kinaed states, "Also, not hidden objs"
11:42:39p |
11:42:39p |
11:42:39p | Niamh trails off, "There's a spec about that somewhere..."
11:42:39p |
11:42:46p |
11:42:46p | Eirian states, "And not hidden objects, yes."
11:42:46p |
11:42:47p |
11:42:47p | Ibrahim states, "Often when soemone is making a home or place with possible hidden stuff, they'll take and put keywords into specific objects. These objects turn into things like hidden compartments, etc."
11:42:47p |
11:42:54p |
11:42:54p | Ibrahim states, "So they might not necessarily want those keywords known "
11:42:54p |
11:43:14p |
11:43:14p | Temi says, "We probably need to rework that code."
11:43:14p |
11:43:22p |
11:43:22p | Temi claims, "And make them actual secrets that work with hidden."
11:43:22p |
11:43:24p |
11:43:24p | Kinaed says, "So first keyword and must be visible to the player. Easy done."
11:43:24p |
11:43:25p |
11:43:25p | Moxie states, "For sure, but a top level of keywords is enough, even if it's the first keyword. Just a single keyword to target an item in the room."
11:43:25p |
11:43:32p | Moxie nods at Kinaed.
11:43:32p |
11:43:37p |
11:43:37p | Moxie highfives Kinaed.
11:43:37p |
11:43:43p |
11:43:43p | Temi states, "Someone not knowing the keyword is not the right away to make things inaccessible."
11:43:43p |
11:43:49p | Kinaed nods at Temi.
11:43:49p |
11:43:55p |
11:43:55p | Taunya nods.
11:43:55p |
11:43:58p | say we had that debate some years ago, when someone had random name for portal exit...
11:43:58p |
11:43:58p | Bofaha trails off, "We had that debate some years ago, when someone had random name for portal exit..."
11:43:58p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:43:58p |
11:44:15p |
11:44:15p | Caterina says, "I think, just as a NON-SPECIFIC STORY, Moxie is more referring to like say... you're cleaning out an old store and there's some silly item in there and you can't target it because the keyword isn't easy to guess. So you get all and get the item. And then you try to junk it and junk your keys instead. And then have to cry to Niamh to fix it and take the item away from you."
11:44:15p |
11:44:19p |
11:44:19p | Caterina claims, "Non-specific story."
11:44:19p |
11:44:26p | Niamh grins at Caterina.
11:44:26p |
11:44:37p |
11:44:37p | Kinaed coughs.
11:44:37p |
11:44:40p | Kinaed asks of Moxie, "Anything else?"
11:44:40p |
11:44:41p |
11:44:41p | Moxie steps down from her soap box. "Thanks guys. Just call me Indiana Jones for digging up all the past cool stuff."
11:44:41p |
11:44:43p |
11:44:43p | Temi says, "Get all often works, of note."
11:44:43p |
11:44:44p | Margaux states to Niamh, "I hope you charge good money for that."
11:44:44p |
11:44:55p |
11:44:55p | Moxie says, "That's it Kin, ta."
11:44:55p |
11:45:05p |
11:45:05p | Niamh twirls Margaux.
11:45:05p |
11:45:06p | sayto Margaux niamh forks for snek photos
11:45:06p | Bofaha states to Margaux, "Niamh forks for snek photos"
11:45:06p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:45:06p |
11:45:17p |
11:45:17p | Moxie snickers.
11:45:17p |
11:45:21p |
11:45:21p | Eirian says, "If you can pick something up, you can see its keywords. Maybe inv items should just show those keywords for all visible things in a room, in the same list format."
11:45:21p |
11:45:23p |
11:45:23p | Niamh claims, "We need a "glare" social that works only in OOC rooms. Automatically targets Bofaha."
11:45:23p |
11:45:36p | sayto Niamh seconded!
11:45:36p | Bofaha exclaims to Niamh, "Seconded!"
11:45:36p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:45:36p |
11:45:40p |
11:45:40p | Kinaed says, "Okay. Vicannia wanted to talk/ask about the assets spec, as did Ibrahim, so - if everyone hasn't read the assets spec, there should be some on the floor. We'll be switching them on in game come Saturday, June 17th"
11:45:40p |
11:45:40p |
11:45:40p | Moxie pontificates, "Oh WAIT!"
11:45:40p |
11:45:44p |
11:45:44p | Moxie pontificates, "I had one more thing!"
11:45:44p |
11:45:54p | Kinaed questions to Moxie, "Quick please?"
11:45:54p |
11:45:59p | Nadya gazes at Bofaha in contemplative thought.
11:45:59p |
11:46:14p |
11:46:14p | Moxie says, "Real quick. Can the distance restriction of hemote be removed please. I want to shoot people glances and wave to them across a room."
11:46:14p |
11:46:23p | say yeeees
11:46:23p |
11:46:23p | Bofaha says, "Yeeees"
11:46:23p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:46:23p |
11:46:25p |
11:46:25p | Empena muses, "Does that mean this week will be the last week to purchase silver?"
11:46:25p |
11:46:27p | say milion times yes...
11:46:28p |
11:46:28p | Bofaha trails off, "Milion times yes..."
11:46:28p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:46:28p |
11:46:45p | Kinaed claims to Moxie, "There is no distance restriction, it's just more likely someone across the room will miss it."
11:46:45p |
11:46:51p | Temi claims, "I'd imagine it would be easier for other folks to notice, the farther they are."
11:46:51p |
11:46:56p |
11:46:56p | Lance tells Empena, "Staff said you probably want to save that XP though."
11:46:56p |
11:47:03p | Taunya says to Kinaed, "You can't target people with the = thing if they're too far"
11:47:03p |
11:47:06p |
11:47:06p | Lance states, "For the assets."
11:47:12p | Moxie states, "Sorry to disagree boss, there's a distance restriction. You physically can't hemote to someone who is too far."
11:47:12p |
11:47:18p |
11:47:18p |
11:47:22p |
11:47:22p | Nadya claims, "Hoss*"
11:47:22p |
11:47:23p | Kinaed claims to Empena, "Purchase silver is already gone because we didn't want people to hoard."
11:47:23p |
11:47:26p |
11:47:26p | Eirian states, "Oh, targeted hemotes."
11:47:26p |
11:47:29p | Eirian nods.
11:47:29p |
11:47:35p | sayto Kinaed what? I was about to hoard...
11:47:35p | Bofaha trails off to Kinaed, "What? I was about to hoard..."
11:47:35p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:47:35p |
11:47:36p |
11:47:36p | Moxie says, "Yes."
11:47:36p |
11:47:37p | emote cries
11:47:37p |
11:47:37p | Bofaha cries
11:47:37p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:47:37p |
11:47:40p | Kinaed says to Moxie, "I'll make a note and have a look."
11:47:40p |
11:47:48p |
11:47:48p | Nadya says, "I'm fine with it."
11:47:48p |
11:47:51p |
11:47:51p | Temi claims, "Purchase wealth is still and will remain in place."
11:47:51p |
11:47:54p |
11:47:54p | Caterina says, "What? I thought last week we said purchase silver wasn't going anywhere."
11:47:54p |
11:48:03p |
11:48:03p | Taunya queries, "Can everyone get that 500 silver starting silver now, or will it just be for new players?"
11:48:03p |
11:48:05p |
11:48:05p | Kinaed claims, "No, we never said that."
11:48:05p |
11:48:10p |
11:48:10p | Kinaed states, "WEALTH is still in place."
11:48:10p |
11:48:15p |
11:48:15p | Kinaed states, "Anyone can purchase wealth."
11:48:15p |
11:48:32p |
11:48:32p | Nadya claims, "My only suggestion is that it should still be in place during Chargen."
11:48:32p |
11:48:32p | Eirian muses, "Purchase qp_silver is staying, yes?"
11:48:32p |
11:48:35p |
11:48:35p | Azarial claims, "Besides, if you burn it all on purchase silver you;re stuck on assets until the market populates."
11:48:35p |
11:48:53p |
11:48:53p | Kinaed claims, "500 starting silver *ponder* I'll discuss that with staff, if it's a reasonable consession to make."
11:48:53p |
11:49:05p |
11:49:05p | Flaviano raises his hand to make a suggestion when there is time, but is also still behind...
11:49:05p |
11:49:12p | Margaux claims to Kinaed, "Make it variable based on class"
11:49:12p |
11:49:27p | Robin is idle.
11:49:27p |
11:49:45p |
11:49:45p | Taunya questions, "Are there any restrictions based on the class of the asset?"
11:49:45p |
11:49:47p |
11:49:47p | Kinaed states, "Do we have a purchase qp_silver? Hmm. I'll note that down to discuss with staff also"
11:49:47p |
11:49:50p |
11:49:50p | Ibrahim states, "So um"
11:49:50p |
11:50:00p |
11:50:00p | Ibrahim asks, "Am I still waiting for Vicannia to get a chance to do her thing?"
11:50:00p |
11:50:08p |
11:50:08p | Eirian says, "We have purchase silver, purchase qp_silver, purchase wealth."
11:50:08p |
11:50:13p |
11:50:13p | Vicannia says, "What I wanted to bring up is the xp prices for assets. While reasonable for someone in chargen who is starting a character, though I do believe starting xp in chargen should be upped to help accomodate this change, that xp is rather high for people on grid. Or I should say people who don't every waking moment rping, IE it seems more in favor of hardcore players than casual players who have a life outside of TI"
11:50:13p |
11:50:38p | Moxie nods at Vicannia.
11:50:38p |
11:50:43p |
11:50:43p | Kinaed states, "I'm sorry, Vic, but the way our XP system works, all XP costs are floating."
11:50:43p |
11:50:57p |
11:50:57p | Nadya reels from Vicannia's Sick burn.
11:50:57p |
11:51:03p |
11:51:03p | Eirian states, "Every aspect of the XP system already rewards people who can RP more."
11:51:03p |
11:51:06p |
11:51:06p | Temi says, "They won't be available for purchase by xp in general, after the new start."
11:51:06p |
11:51:13p |
11:51:13p | Kinaed states, "That means that we actually cannot, without rewriting the XP system, charge XP costs for things for some people, but not for others."
11:51:13p |
11:51:20p |
11:51:20p | Eirian says, "We're kind of mired in that framework."
11:51:20p |
11:51:31p | Kinaed nods at Temi.
11:51:31p |
11:51:33p | say the good part is, after your first dead of a 100h+ character you are set for life
11:51:34p |
11:51:34p | Bofaha claims, "The good part is, after your first dead of a 100h+ character you are set for life"
11:51:34p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:51:34p |
11:51:39p |
11:51:39p | Nadya claims, "Wait a moment."
11:51:39p |
11:51:53p |
11:51:53p | Temi says, "That will be primarily for chargen, and then silver on the asset market in game."
11:51:53p |
11:51:54p |
11:51:54p | Lance says, "Not necessarily."
11:51:54p |
11:52:08p | Ibrahim asks of Kinaed, "New players in chargen will be able to still buy it with XP right?"
11:52:08p |
11:52:11p |
11:52:11p | Nadya says, "So, the 500h or whatever thingy monument was replaced, right? Why not make that part of the assets system, or something, if people have struggles with it."
11:52:11p |
11:52:24p | Kinaed nods at Ibrahim.
11:52:24p |
11:52:25p |
11:52:25p | Azarial states, "It was not replaced."
11:52:25p |
11:52:26p | Eirian muses to Nadya, "What do you mean, replaced?"
11:52:26p |
11:52:31p |
11:52:31p | Eirian says, "I don't think it was replaced."
11:52:31p |
11:52:37p |
11:52:37p | Nadya states, "I meant removed."
11:52:37p |
11:52:40p |
11:52:40p | Taunya says, "The QP monuments were replaced with milestones"
11:52:40p |
11:52:41p |
11:52:41p | Eirian questions, "Was it?"
11:52:41p |
11:52:42p |
11:52:42p | Nadya asks, "Or did I dream that up?"
11:52:42p |
11:52:50p |
11:52:50p | Temi claims, "We switched to only those 500h monuments."
11:52:50p |
11:52:51p | say yea, qp is gone, but 500h is in
11:52:51p |
11:52:51p | Bofaha claims, "Yea, qp is gone, but 500h is in"
11:52:51p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:52:51p |
11:52:51p |
11:52:51p | Eirian states, "I equated monuments with milestones."
11:52:51p |
11:52:53p | Robin is no longer idle.
11:52:53p | Robin has returned from AFK.
11:52:53p |
11:52:57p |
11:52:57p | Temi states, "Not just purchase for QP anytime you want"
11:52:57p |
11:52:58p | say because I was too close to getting my monument...
11:52:58p |
11:52:58p | Bofaha trails off, "Because I was too close to getting my monument..."
11:52:58p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:52:58p |
11:53:06p | Vicannia says to Temi, "I understand that, but this initial purchase is going to be what really determines the power players in the game... I'd be fine if they could be purchased with silver at first as well... But the amount you are expecting to suddenly spring upon people, especially with changes to skills as of late, is unreasonable. 10,000 silver for the second tier? Yeah I make 10,000 silver in about a month."
11:53:06p |
11:53:26p |
11:53:26p | Empena states, "I have the same sort of concern, that rather than reward RP in general, assests will be serve people who are good at knowing RL economics, etc"
11:53:26p |
11:53:29p |
11:53:29p | Ibrahim claims, "That's XP not silver."
11:53:29p |
11:53:38p |
11:53:38p | Vicannia claims, "I meant xp, not silver"
11:53:38p |
11:54:04p |
11:54:04p | Ibrahim wonders, "The question I have may actually directly impact this for characters like Vicannia, if I may ask it now?"
11:54:04p |
11:54:05p | sayto Vicannia that's a way so not everyone will be the rich and fameous. Poor southsider rp is as fun, if not more, as you can simply walk to a brotherl
11:54:05p | Bofaha claims to Vicannia, "That's a way so not everyone will be the rich and fameous. Poor southsider rp is as fun, if not more, as you can simply walk to a brotherl"
11:54:05p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:54:05p |
11:54:10p |
11:54:10p | Moxie trails off, "Better start RPing with them cyans then..."
11:54:10p |
11:54:11p |
11:54:11p | Vicannia says, "And to be clear kinaed, I'm not asking for the xp amount to be reduced for specific players, but I think it should be reduced in general for this initial purchasing peroid"
11:54:11p |
11:54:52p |
11:54:52p | Ibrahim says, "May I go ahead and ask my thing? It may or may not actually solve Vicannia's worry if something like it is being done or might be considered to be done."
11:54:52p |
11:54:56p | Vicannia claims to Moxie, "I have been. I spent four hours rping with a cyan, at about excellent rp gain the whole time... I came out with maybe 1000 xp.."
11:54:56p |
11:54:58p | Kinaed claims to Ibrahim, "Go ahead."
11:54:58p |
11:55:13p |
11:55:13p | Eirian states, "I've been saving my XP for a while, knowing this was coming, but -- sounds like others have not, or have not had that opportunity."
11:55:13p |
11:55:32p | sayto Vicannia that doesn't sound correct, at maxed rate you should be making about 1kexp/hour
11:55:33p | Bofaha states to Vicannia, "That doesn't sound correct, at maxed rate you should be making about 1kexp/hour"
11:55:33p | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
11:55:33p |
11:55:34p |
11:55:34p | Kaimana states, "I haven't been saving it and am not really sure how I'm going to keep on par with things really."
11:55:34p |
11:55:44p |
11:55:44p | Ibrahim asks, "Okay so, Gentry characters get a lowered XP amount in chargen when they create. I'm assuming this was due to the raised silver amount they got per week as their gentrified pay amount, plus the fancypants gentry title. Will existing Gentry ingame be refunded this amount?"
11:55:44p |
11:56:10p |
11:56:10p | Ibrahim claims, "Or maybe a free tier 2 asset or something"
11:56:10p |
11:56:13p | Nadya gets the ASSETS spec.
11:56:13p |
11:56:16p | Vicannia trails off to Eirian, "I was under the impression it could be purchased with silver as an option at the start... "
11:56:16p |
11:56:27p |
11:56:27p | Temi says, "I will help people set up with silver at the beginning."
11:56:27p |
11:56:32p |
11:56:32p | Temi claims, "Just cleared with Kin."
11:56:32p |
11:56:49p | Kinaed muses to Temi, "Mind posting costs sometime this week on the Announce Board?"
11:56:49p |
11:56:54p | Temi nods at Kinaed.
11:56:54p |
11:57:10p |
11:57:10p | Temi says, "I will plan to do that."
11:57:10p |
11:57:28p | Vicannia states to Temi, "That would be appreciated, because I feel like it hasn't exactly been super clear on what the initial purchasing would be, as I apparently completely misunderstood."
11:57:28p |
11:57:54p |
11:57:54p | Eirian declaims, "I understood the initial purchasing to be XP based, just as it will be for new characters. Then, move to silver. But I'm cool with whatever!"
11:57:54p |
11:58:25p |
11:58:25p | Temi says, "We weren't entirely clear with it initially, so now that we are clear, I'll help smooth it over for folks."
11:58:25p |
11:58:46p |
11:58:46p | Ibrahim hums.
11:58:46p |
11:58:52p | Eirian grins.
11:58:52p |
11:59:00p |
11:59:00p | Eirian queries, "Will it be first-come, first-serve?"
11:59:00p |
11:59:05p |
11:59:05p | Vicannia nods Especially with the changes to medicine last week, some of us are still trying to recuperate from that as well." smirks
11:59:05p |
11:59:06p |
11:59:06p | Kinaed states, "I'd like to reiterate that the assets spec, which is *mostly* still correct, is sitting ont he floor in this room. Please feel free to take it and familiarize yourself. Temi will be making a post about how initial asset purchase will work soon."
11:59:06p |
11:59:13p |
11:59:13p | Moxie claims, "I figure we'll have a teething period when assets come in that'll be like the famine of Lithmore a couple RL years ago when nobody has any money, then there'll be tweaks. I wouldn't worry about poor balance re: assets. Kinaed and the team are usually quite tight on tweaking."
11:59:13p |
11:59:14p |
11:59:14p | Kinaed claims, "Hopefully that will help everyone."
11:59:14p |
11:59:18p |
11:59:18p | Eirian asks, "And will we get some warning, so we can pop in and claim the assets we've been waiting months to claim? ^_^"
11:59:18p |
11:59:20p |
11:59:20p | Empena asks, "Wait so initial purchases silver or xp based?"
11:59:20p |
11:59:30p |
11:59:30p | Temi states, "Initial purchases are xp based."
11:59:30p |
11:59:31p |
11:59:31p | Ibrahim claims, "Do I need to ask my question again or did it get overrun"
11:59:31p |
11:59:39p |
11:59:39p | Temi claims, "Temi will help with silver based purchases for initial assets for those who need that."
11:59:39p |
11:59:41p | Kinaed exclaims to Ibrahim, "Please ask again, I didn't see it. Sorry!"
11:59:41p |
11:59:46p |
11:59:46p | Ibrahim asks, "Okay so, Gentry characters get a lowered XP amount in chargen when they create. I'm assuming this was due to the raised silver amount they got per week as their gentrified pay amount, plus the fancypants gentry title. Will existing Gentry ingame be refunded this amount?"
11:59:46p |
12:00:04a |
12:00:04a | Margaux muses, "The gentry class itself costs about 15k iirc?"
12:00:04a |
12:00:10a |
12:00:10a | Ibrahim claims, "Something like that"
12:00:10a |
12:00:14a |
12:00:14a | Azarial claims, "Being gentry changes how many assets you can obtain, and their uality"
12:00:14a |
12:00:19a |
12:00:19a | Taunya wonders, "I had a question about the class of the asset. Are they all the same benefit-wise? eg tier 3 silver is 150 silver a week, for both nobles and freemen?"
12:00:19a |
12:00:35a |
12:00:35a | Kinaed says, "If we change the costs of being gentry, then all gentry would be refunded - a side effect of that floating XP model we discussed earlier, but I don't think the cost of gentry is changing."
12:00:35a |
12:00:35a |
12:00:35a | Ibrahim wonders, "So are new gentry still starting at a lower xp amount?"
12:00:35a |
12:00:38a |
12:00:38a | Kaimana says, "I didn't even know that. That'd explain why I had no xp to spend on Alessandro. "
12:00:38a |
12:01:10a |
12:01:10a | Niamh says, "You're paying for access to the higher tier/better assets with your gentry RPXP, sort've."
12:01:10a |
12:01:19a |
12:01:19a | Kaimana asks, "Sort of?"
12:01:19a |
12:01:21a |
12:01:21a | Vicannia muses, "How much starting xp does someone get for a new alt? Ie not a new account but just a new alt, not including death xp"
12:01:21a |
12:01:23a | Kinaed states to Taunya, "Yes, I believe so, but I think there are class limits on which tier you can buy and how many assets different classes can hold."
12:01:23a |
12:01:27a |
12:01:27a | Azarial states, "About 50k"
12:01:27a |
12:01:32a | Kinaed nods at Azarial.
12:01:32a |
12:01:33a |
12:01:33a | Ibrahim says, "Yeah but gentry characters don't really get much XP to go around initially. Being gimped on that means they can barely even start with any assets."
12:01:33a |
12:01:34a | Eirian states to Taunya, "I think your question might be answered in the asset spec, also."
12:01:34a |
12:01:39a |
12:01:39a | Azarial says, "With a float of -10k for skills."
12:01:39a |
12:01:56a | Taunya says to Eirian, "I read through a few times, not so clear."
12:01:56a |
12:01:59a |
12:01:59a | Ibrahim states, "The benefit of Gentry before was that you had a higher silver gain per week which offset that negative xp amount you started with"
12:01:59a |
12:02:09a |
12:02:09a | Kinaed says, "We're at the top of the hour, but I'm happy to keep the meeting open for another 10 min or so for discussion."
12:02:09a |
12:02:12a |
12:02:12a | Vicannia states, "So I could purchase gentry, purchase a tier 2 asset, and raise two skills to 36... seems fair."
12:02:12a |
12:02:14a |
12:02:14a | Kinaed claims, "If anyone has to leave, just send me a tell."
12:02:14a |
12:02:26a | Caterina has been transferred out by Kinaed. [OOC]
12:02:26a |
12:02:43a | Lance has been transferred out by Kinaed. [OOC]
12:02:43a |
12:02:44a |
12:02:44a | Kaimana says, "I don't have to leave but could I chat with one of you afterwards on some things? nothing important just yeah."
12:02:44a |
12:02:47a |
12:02:47a | Moxie claims, "I think we should just wait and see what happens. No use speculating on something until it's built and released."
12:02:47a |
12:02:51a | Kinaed nods at Kaimana.
12:02:51a |
12:03:05a |
12:03:05a | Ibrahim states, "I'd rather speculate now than sit on my hands and wait until it's bad."
12:03:05a |
12:03:17a | sayto Kinaed on not asset note, would it be possible th preserve whererp visibility through logins? right now it resets every time to "yes"
12:03:17a | Bofaha muses to Kinaed, "On not asset note, would it be possible th preserve whererp visibility through logins? right now it resets every time to "yes""
12:03:17a | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
12:03:17a |
12:03:20a |
12:03:20a | Eirian says, "It's a fair concern."
12:03:20a |
12:03:34a | Moxie nods at Bofaha.
12:03:34a |
12:03:45a |
12:03:45a | Temi says, "Freemen aren't able to get tier 3 assets."
12:03:45a |
12:04:04a | Kinaed claims to Bofaha, "No, we used to have that and the game was empty because people would just turn it off and forget to turn it back on."
12:04:05a |
12:04:12a | say ah
12:04:13a |
12:04:13a | Bofaha claims, "Ah"
12:04:13a | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
12:04:13a |
12:04:15a | say fair enough!
12:04:16a |
12:04:16a | Bofaha declares, "Fair enough!"
12:04:16a | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
12:04:16a |
12:04:17a |
12:04:17a | Flaviano raises his hands in the air. "WOOHOO!! Finally caught up!!"
12:04:17a |
12:04:20a |
12:04:20a | Temi claims, "The system is favorable to gentry and nobles, so the extra cost is accounted for."
12:04:20a |
12:04:30a |
12:04:30a | Ibrahim claims, "As it stands with the current purchase setup, a new freeman would be able to start off with assets plus a number of skills to support and grow their base. A gentry would be even more skill starved than they normally already are AND potentially start with less assets to start with. That's my concern."
12:04:30a |
12:04:49a |
12:04:49a | Margaux wonders, "Will guilds be able to own assets?"
12:04:49a |
12:04:54a |
12:04:54a | Temi claims, "Freemen have less slots."
12:04:54a |
12:04:56a |
12:04:56a | Kinaed states, "Don't make a gentry char based on just 50k xp then."
12:04:56a |
12:05:18a |
12:05:18a | Taunya muses, "Oh, so you can't buy just a tier 2? you have to buy both tier 1 and a tier 2?"
12:05:18a |
12:05:21a |
12:05:21a | Kinaed states, "Playing higher social class chars is a purchase decision as a player. It comes with perks, and they cost."
12:05:21a |
12:05:24a |
12:05:24a | Azarial claims, "In a lot of ways, your first char ought ot be a freeman so you can figure things out wiht the budern of sopcial obligations."
12:05:24a |
12:05:26a |
12:05:26a | Eirian wonders, "There's still an XP bonus for the first character on a new account, right?"
12:05:26a |
12:05:37a |
12:05:37a | Temi claims, "You could have just a tier 2, yeah."
12:05:37a |
12:05:40a |
12:05:40a | Kinaed says, "There's an XP bonus to all characters, if I recall."
12:05:40a |
12:05:43a |
12:05:43a | Kinaed claims, "Not jsut the first."
12:05:43a |
12:05:44a | Azarial states to Eirian, "No; the base was bumped up to that"
12:05:44a |
12:05:56a |
12:05:56a | Azarial says, "And class costs have come down a few times as well."
12:05:56a |
12:05:58a |
12:05:58a | Empena states, "But that's not imposed in any way, making a Freeman first"
12:05:58a |
12:06:03a |
12:06:03a | Ibrahim claims, "Right, except a Gentry character has no perks to start with with that setup. The Freeman has an easier time starting which doesn't really make any sense."
12:06:03a |
12:06:04a | Taunya states to Temi, "Oh, so why can't a freeman have a tier 3? It could make IC sense for them to."
12:06:04a |
12:06:24a |
12:06:24a | Azarial claims, "Not thematically."
12:06:24a |
12:06:25a | Temi says to Taunya, "Because they aren't suited to the class."
12:06:25a |
12:06:27a | Kinaed says to Empena, "No. But if a gentry is your first char, you're likely to have the problem Ibrahim was speculating on. If you have xp from RPing and it's a 2nd char, etc, you probably won't."
12:06:27a |
12:06:32a |
12:06:32a | Niamh states, "They wouldn't be a freeman anymore if it made IC sense for them to have a tier 3 asset."
12:06:32a |
12:06:43a | Eirian nods.
12:06:43a |
12:06:58a |
12:06:58a | Eirian claims, "Freemen should be easier to start out as, but more restrictive to play, imo."
12:06:58a |
12:06:59a | Margaux questions to Kinaed, "Perhaps add some chargen/newbie zone warnings about that for newb?"
12:06:59a |
12:07:02a |
12:07:02a | Kinaed claims, "Remember, with new assets, if you don't want to be a freeman anymore, you can literally walk up to the Reeves, pay a large fee, and get reclassed."
12:07:02a |
12:07:14a |
12:07:14a | Temi states, "Provided you can convince the reeves, of course."
12:07:14a |
12:07:20a |
12:07:20a | Vicannia says, "Question... Will purchasing assests in chargen negatively affect death xp? I remember when I purchased wealth in chargen, it negatively affected my death xp for quite while until I had spent the same amount in skllls, only then did I start earning death xp."
12:07:20a |
12:07:21a | sayto Kinaed can poor ousted gentry be declassed?
12:07:21a | Bofaha muses to Kinaed, "Can poor ousted gentry be declassed?"
12:07:21a | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
12:07:21a |
12:07:22a |
12:07:22a | Kinaed finishes abruptly, "It's costly as all get out, but it's ICly acknowledged, then you can do whatever you want - you just need to be able to afford it"
12:07:22a |
12:07:23a |
12:07:23a | Taunya muses, "There's reasons a freeman can't be gentry, but still be wealthy. could it unlock tier 3 by purchasing wealth first, perhaps?"
12:07:23a |
12:07:34a | Kinaed states to Bofaha, "Not at this stage, no."
12:07:34a |
12:07:47a | Temi claims to Vicannia, "Kin's stated that assets should be refundable with death xp."
12:07:47a |
12:07:54a |
12:07:54a | Eirian pontificates, "I'll take a trans out. Thanks for the meeting!"
12:07:54a |
12:07:59a | Eirian has been transferred out by Kinaed. [OOC]
12:07:59a |
12:08:11a | Vicannia states to Temi, "Okay just wanted to make sure, since my eyes wealth and assets are similar beasts."
12:08:11a |
12:08:29a | Temi nods.
12:08:29a |
12:08:30a | Kinaed says to Taunya, "You just need the Reeve fee, which would probably be easiest to get purchasing wealth, but potentially unnecessary also if you have other methods of getting that much money together."
12:08:30a |
12:08:33a |
12:08:33a | Temi claims, "It could have gone either way."
12:08:33a |
12:09:08a |
12:09:08a | Margaux claims, "Adds a nice potential money maker for the Reeves too, which is good."
12:09:08a |
12:09:32a |
12:09:32a | Vlora pontificates, "With an added... extra admin fee!"
12:09:32a |
12:09:41a | say extortion you mean
12:09:41a |
12:09:41a | Bofaha states, "Extortion you mean"
12:09:41a | (This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)
12:09:41a |
12:09:45a |
12:09:45a | Vlora states, "Exactly. "
12:09:45a |
12:09:47a |
12:09:47a | Kinaed twiddles her thumbs.
12:09:47a |
12:09:55a |
12:09:55a | Ibrahim muses, "You mean the tool they already have but never use?"
12:09:55a |
12:09:58a |
12:09:58a | Flaviano nods at everything in general. "Check."
12:09:58a |
12:11:28a |
12:11:28a | Kinaed states, "Anything else? Our extra 10 min is up, and I have things on today, so I can't stick around too much longer."
12:11:28a |
12:11:30a |
12:11:30a | Azarial states, "If youa re more charali, sorry, no gentry"
12:11:30a |
12:11:35a | Kinaed states to Bofaha, "Thanks for posting the specs on the forums."
12:11:35a |
12:11:50a |
12:11:50a | Moxie muses, "Thanks Kin, thanks everyone. Can I get a trans out please?"
12:12:04a |
12:12:04a | Kinaed says, "I hope we got to everyone and their questions/concerns. Otherwise, you can contact us by pboard or forums, or just tells."