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Log of OOC Meeting 10/10/2015

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:16 pm
by Applesauce
2:59p | Takta pontificates, "Kinaed and Temi are both not really here, so it's fallen to me to run the OOC meeting today!"
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3:00p | Otois claims, "Well, we do see your closet on where ;)"
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3:00p | Temi grins.
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3:00p | A puddle of dark, muddy water burbles into existence, and out from it climbs Elzenn! [OOC]
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3:00p | A small arctic fox darts past you, then pauses and grins. Nine tails flutter behind her as she stands and becomes Azarial. [OOC]
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3:00p | Takta trails off, "As such, keep in mind that there will be plenty of discussion but I am not exactly able to tell you 'yes' or 'no' on ideas..."
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3:00p | Takta exclaims, "But Kin -will- read the minute notes and consider your suggestions!"
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3:00p | Takta says, "If anyone has any player topics to discuss, please say so now."
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3:00p | Adelaide claims, "I'd like to make a quick announcement about the Messenger."
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3:00p | Yonatan asks, "Well I had a question that might be a discussion?"
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3:01p | Takta claims, "(And start typing up your comment/topic in a notepad window, please, so you'll be ready when it's your turn.)"
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3:01p | Takta nods at Adelaide.
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3:01p | Takta nods at Yonatan.
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3:01p | Temi claims, "Closet is for testing, ooc has extra features like understanding language stuff"
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3:01p | Takta claims, "Okay, got you two."
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3:01p | Takta muses, "Any other topics you folks want to make sure are covered?"
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3:01p | Adgen questions, "I have 2 itty bitty things, is it possible to say them both?"
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3:01p | Eilyn muses, "I have some little suggestions for things? But they're not really important, just fun things I think would be fun to have. If I didn't wanna bring them up here, where could I suggest them?"
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3:02p | Gretel says "I'd like to suggest an idea: a prisonner anyone could log in to offer roleplay to player in jail".
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3:02p | Mika pontificates to Eilyn, "There's always forums, but you're welcome to bring things up here even if they're small! that's what ooc chat is for"
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3:02p | Eilyn grins. Okaay!
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3:02p | Takta trails off, "Okay, so let's say..."
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3:03p | Takta claims, "Adgen, Eilyn (if you feel they need discussion here), Gretel, and if time we'll discuss your other thing, Adgen."
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3:03p | Yonatan says, "I think you forgot me"
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3:03p | Eilyn bobs her head happily. Okaay!
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3:03p | Takta claims to Yonatan, "Had you two already up front."
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3:03p | Takta grins.
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3:03p | Adgen states, "K"
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3:03p | Yonatan claims, "Oh okay oops"
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3:03p | Takta claims, "Okay, let's get started! Staff updates. I'm gonna assume Kin can't really update, but correct me if I'm wrong, Kin."
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3:03p | Takta queries, "In the meantime, Az?"
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3:04p | Azarial claims, "Mostly bugs and stuff; mostly treading water this week."
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3:05p | Takta states, "Gotcha."
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3:05p | Azarial claims, "Not much in the way of details most weeks."
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3:05p | Takta muses, "Temi, are you here enough for an update?"
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3:05p | Azarial shrugs eloquently with more tail than shoulders.
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3:05p | Temi nods.
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3:05p | Temi claims, "I am on the phone at the airport heading back to you guys"
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3:06p | Temi states, "Will be back tonight "
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3:06p | Takta states, "Yay. :D"
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3:06p | Mika grins at Temi.
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3:06p | Temi states, "Been a great conference though :)"
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3:06p | Temi nods at Takta.
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3:07p | Takta says, "Awesome! For myself, I updated the Charali camp, tested and helpfiled a couple dozen bugs (all in the news file you see on log-in), did some typos and requests. Generally keep-up work rather than anything grand and new."
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3:07p | Takta wonders, "Xinoe?"
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3:08p | Xinoe claims, "This week I don't have much of a list to report either! I've been working on phomes and how real estate is handled, and requests and typos. I mentioned last week as a plug that long descriptions on items ought to be full sentences but forgot to post a note about that, so I'll do that today. The papercrafting upgrade is still my next project and I have seen the forum thoughts on it. I still haven't found a rename I like for it, given its broader focus... Arts and Crafts is too long, Artistry just doesn't sit right with me, so I think Artwork is the frontrunner right now. But along with the paper products you know and love, there will be some limited ceramics and stonework, and most likely some tattooing options."
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3:10p | Misune says, "Yay."
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3:10p | Eilyn wonders, "Crafting? Artistry?"
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3:11p | Mika nods at Xinoe.
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3:11p | Takta questions, "Anything else, Xin?"
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3:11p | Xinoe claims, "I liked something with craft in it because it's already using craft as a command, but technically it's also using art as a command too, and we use craft_ for miscellaneous. But maybe we'll vote on it or roll some dice."
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3:11p | Mika states, "Im excited about that"
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3:11p | Xinoe claims, "Nope, that's me."
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3:11p | Takta claims, "Alrighty! Mika, you're up."
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3:11p | Mika says, "This week I didn't get a whole lot done in the requests queue, but I updated the Hillman village in the interest in keeping up with the (Charali) Joneses and because I am excited by all the people messaging me saying they're thinking up Hillmen concepts now. I redesced a bunch of it, added chickens, all the important stuff, there's a general board post."
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3:12p | Mika says, "Of* also. but that's all I can think of for me off the top of my head."
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3:12p | Takta exclaims, "That's a big thing! Thanks. :D Elzenn, your turn!"
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3:13p | Elzenn says, "It's been general maintenance work here as well. Recs, typos, requests, learning what's what about plots. Also throwing about some ideas like a sort of 'How to rec well and often' clinic, if people are thinking they feel their recs get rejected and they don't know why, or they aren't sure just when and why to rec their fellow players."
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3:13p | Elzenn states, "That being my way to see if people would be interesteeeed."
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3:13p | Silrie pontificates, "Yes!"
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3:14p | Elzenn grins.
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3:14p | Yonatan declaims, "Not a bad idea at all!"
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3:15p | Mika nods.
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3:15p | Gretel asks " _Rec_ like _recommand_ ? "
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3:16p | Temi nods.
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3:16p | Elzenn states to Gretel, "Rec like recommend, which is our player to player reward system of sorts. (help recommend will give you details if you have not read it yet)"
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3:17p | Takta says, "Alright! I think that covers staff updates."
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3:17p | Otois states, "Its a way to make conflic characters less expensive"
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3:17p | Takta questions, "Time for Player Heartbeat - how's RP, folks? Any problems or issues staff could help you with?"
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3:17p | Otois declares, "Pretty good, lots of fun conflict and head smashing!"
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3:17p | Yonatan says, "Ehhhh. lots of rp. not necessarily the most fun rp"
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3:17p | Aios claims to Takta, "Awesome. So busy I unfortunately can't even get to all the stuff I need to get to."
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3:18p | Cahrilee is idle.
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3:18p | Takta declaims to Yonatan, "Sorry to hear it!"
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3:18p | Takta claims to Aios, "But glad to hear that."
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3:18p | Takta grins.
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3:18p | Mika nods.
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3:18p | Eilyn declaims, "It's been great!"
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3:18p | Zelos claims, "Not much RP from me except trying to keep my teeth safe from someone."
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3:18p | Mika says, "My mortal alts are also swamped with papers to manage"
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3:18p | Otois states to Zelos, "Do not get used to them"
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3:18p | Temi grins.
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3:18p | Lenore says, "I've been having a lot of fun, but I've been feeling kind of sad to see a lot of 1s on the where list and not always having great excuses to make them 2s."
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3:18p | Cahrilee is no longer idle.
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3:18p | Zelos says to Otois, "But... But.. I love them."
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3:19p | Eilyn nods.
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3:19p | Takta claims, "Yeah, our activity has been slightly down."
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3:19p | Takta exclaims, "Good time for an event or ST, if you're thinking one!"
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3:19p | Otois states, "Well you can always send tell to online players and ask if they are up for a scene"
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3:19p | Lenore states, "I don't think that's something staff can or needs to help with though. I think I just have to drink more of my own drinks and crash other people's solo parties."
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3:19p | Lenore grins.
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3:19p | Eilyn asks, "What's the difference between an event and a story? Helpfiles?"
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3:19p | Mika nods at Lenore.
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3:20p | Eilyn scours helpfiles.
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3:20p | Kinaed states, "Being on where is an invitation to others, so please don't hesitate to visit people."
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3:20p | Temi states, "A story is a type of event "
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3:20p | Kinaed states, "Player run storytelling, like tabletop with a GM."
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3:21p | Otois declares to Kinaed, "Welcome to the living!"
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3:21p | Temi claims, "Using a system to let players run it, yeah"
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3:21p | Elzenn states, "There is one happening monday, I believe, if ever you want to check out the broad lines. You can pitch it, get approved and have your own little party."
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3:21p | Takta states, "We had a ton of player topics, so let's move on and see if we can get through all of them."
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3:21p | Kinaed says to Otois, "Not really. Mobile phone, hangover... best if Takta runs things, I'm only 25% alive."
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3:22p | Takta exclaims, "Remember, please pre-type your topic for speed!"
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3:22p | Takta claims, "Adelaide, you're up."
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3:22p | Adelaide states, "Thanks! I just wanted to say that I want to take advantage of the November writing contest plans by launching the first edition of the Messenger sometime during the month. The Messenger is an IC newspaper that actually originated on a different version of the game, but its legacy remains and I've wanted to resurrect it for a long time. The OOC meeting started before I could start a rumor or post notes about soliciting articles, but if you like writing IC you might enjoy getting involved! I'm pretty sure there will be monetary and/or QP incentives, I just am not totally sure on amounts yet."
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3:22p | Kinaed says to Adelaide, "Sounds cool."
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3:23p | Silrie says, "Ooooh, nice."
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3:23p | Otois questions, "Wouldn't newpsaper be like super expensive?"
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3:23p | Silrie states, "That sounds really great."
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3:23p | Adelaide claims, "I think you're overthinking it."
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3:23p | Adelaide grins.
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3:23p | Takta claims, "We have a pretty established precedent of paper being reasonably cheap in RP."
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3:23p | Takta pontificates, "Let us know if staff can help!"
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3:23p | Temi declaims, "But not for whole books!"
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3:24p | Takta states, "Right, newspapers are shorter than entire books."
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3:24p | Takta grins.
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3:24p | Takta wonders, "Okay! Yonatan?"
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3:24p | Yonatan states, "I just wanted to ask/find out if there was any official word on the cloth-of-gold and cloth-of-silver discussion. Like any sort of finality on it. I hadn't seen any sure yay or nay about it."
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3:24p | Temi says, "But short news things, letters, etc, no big deal "
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3:24p | Mika says, "I'd like to see someone try to tell the regent hes breaking sumptuary laws"
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3:24p | Takta says, "For those who don't know what Yonatan was talking about, this was suggesting that maybe cloth-of-silver and cloth-of-gold should be less restricted by sumptuary so that some PCs can wear them."
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3:25p | Kinaed says, "Nothing final, but I was in agreement with the post, so just need to action it."
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3:25p | Zelos questions to Mika, "How much are you willing to pay?"
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3:25p | Elzenn says to Zelos, "Nah, you're doing it out of your good, Davite hear and encouraging him to know his place."
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3:25p | Elzenn coughs, "Heart, too.
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3:25p | Yonatan says, "Just figured since they were there, pc's should be able to wear them"
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3:25p | Takta says, "Okay, cool! If Kin's in favor, then we may not need much discussion."
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3:25p | Takta grins.
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3:25p | Yonatan claims to Kinaed, "Awesome"
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3:26p | Takta claims, "Adgen, you"
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3:26p | Takta pontificates, "Ahem. You're up!"
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3:26p | Adgen states, "My first itty bitty thing is to see if Toss can be linked to throw, last I checked, if you type help throw, it doesn't tell you about toss period. you have to find out about toss by word of mouth."
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3:26p | Misune wonders, "What do we mean by less restricted by sumptuary?"
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3:26p | Temi states, "That is fine things to put in typos"
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3:26p | Takta states to Misune, "Made so that -someone- can legally wear cloth-of-silver and cloth-of-gold."
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3:26p | Kinaed says, "Should be easy to add toss to Throw's seealso."
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3:26p | Takta nods at Temi.
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3:26p | Yonatan claims to Misune, "Right now no pc can wear cloth-of-silver or cloth-of-gold but they are the high end tailoring recipe"
3:26p | Mika states to Misune, "Atm only royalty can wear cloth of gold / silver, and PCs cap out at nobility"
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3:27p | Takta says, "Just give us a quick Typoboard note about that, Adgen, and consider it done."
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3:27p | Takta muses, "Since it's so short, what's your other thing?"
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3:27p | Kinaed says, "Done."
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3:27p | Misune trails off, "Oh... well yeah that makes sense, I thought it was restricted to nobility"
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3:27p | Adgen claims, "The second thing was getting a way to see the P on ourselves when wearing prestigous items, I never know if it's active or not on my guy."
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3:28p | Kinaed says, "Yes."
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3:28p | Takta states, "Yeah, we need that for sure."
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3:28p | Kinaed nods at Takta.
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3:29p | Takta states, "I think we've discussed some general way to see how you appear in the room."
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3:29p | Mika has transferred Galen. [OOC]
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3:29p | Galen questions, "Here I am! Are we mid-chat?"
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3:29p | Takta declaims, "We are!"
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3:29p | Adgen says, "I know you can see alot of things if you set your action and look at yourself, something like that would be easy"
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3:29p | Temi nods.
3:29p | Silrie nods.
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3:29p | Takta says, "Player topics right now."
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3:29p | Kinaed nods at Adgen.
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3:29p | Gretel since we play in third person, we could simply show our puppett like any other character...
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3:29p | Galen states, "All right! I'll wait a bit before raising anything."
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3:30p | Takta claims, "On look, you mean, Gretel? That's not a bad idea."
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3:30p | Kinaed says, "Can make it show in score where your action does."
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3:30p | Gretel says " oups. I typoed".
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3:30p | Takta muses, "You are in fact there in the room, why not just be able to see yourself on look?"
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3:30p | Gretel says "yes, on look".
3:30p | Takta grins.
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3:30p | Galen claims, "I'm all for your own character showing up in the room with 'look'"
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3:30p | Mika says, "I think it makes sense since it's a third person game these days"
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3:30p | Takta nods at Mika.
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3:30p | Eilyn nods.
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3:30p | Eilyn declares, "I like that idea!"
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3:30p | Kinaed claims, "Look is bad code to mess with."
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3:31p | Aios says, "Look, don't mess with me. (it seems to say)"
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3:31p | Takta says, "We'll definitely figure out something to give this general functionality, one way or the other."
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3:31p | Kinaed nods at Takta.
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3:31p | Galen states, "I have a topic if there's time"
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3:31p | Takta pontificates, "Eilyn, you're up!"
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3:31p | Takta says to Galen, "Sure, there's a few more people yet."
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3:31p | Eilyn wonders, "Hmmm... what about a command like, acshow? Action show? A new command, but does almost the same thing?"
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3:31p | Galen claims, "But if not, we can skip me"
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3:32p | Takta says to Eilyn, "Staff will have to chat later about Az with the best code solution."
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3:32p | Takta trails off, "Er..."
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3:32p | Takta claims, "With Az -about- the best. Ahem."
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3:32p | Otois giggles
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3:32p | Eilyn states, "Ahaha"
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3:34p | Takta says to Eilyn, "Your turn with your topic, by the way."
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3:34p | Temi says, "Flight just started priority boarding "
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3:34p | Misune claims, "Have a good flight"
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3:34p | Shasa declares, "Be safe!"
3:34p | Kinaed declares to Temi, "Have fun!"
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3:34p | Eilyn exclaims, "Okay! so! I was thinking it could be really fun to have hand carts and wagons for moving stuff like logs and really heavy things that would be a bit silly to put in a bag or to just carry around! I know we can just rp it, but it'd be kinda fun to have the coded thing! Like, maybe people can pull the hand carts, and horses can pull the wagons? Maybe instead of encumbrance, movement is just a bit slower? Or, oo, maybe you can't move faster than a walk for people or a trot for horses if they're pulling? Maybe even wagons and hand carts could be added to high level woodworking! I know it's all codely stuff, so would be time consuming, but I just think it could be fun! And I like props, so, fun! One day, maybe even carriages people could sit on and ride in, like of like mounts? You could move the same way, it would just give a different message? Again, you could just rp it, but I love props that could enhance rp for those who'd like to use 'em!"
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3:35p | Adgen has wanted that for a while.
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3:36p | Xinoe queries, "I think some of these already exist and others have been suggested and considered, possibly even accepted but aren't high priority?"
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3:36p | Galen states, "Carts and wagons would be cool, in my imo"
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3:36p | Takta states, "It's definitely been mentioned before, and I think isn't so much a no as - yeah, a priority thing."
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3:36p | Xinoe says, "You can drag containers describe as carts for example."
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3:36p | Takta nods at Xinoe.
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3:36p | Mika nods.
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3:36p | Mika states, "I did not know about drag"
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3:36p | Galen pontificates, "Oh, I didn't either!"
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3:36p | Eilyn says, "Oh! I didn't know that. Haha."
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3:36p | Mika drops a stout, bulky mug filled with a dark heavy ale.
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3:36p | Xinoe smiles.
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3:36p | Temi has left the game.
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3:36p | Mika grumbles and just picks it up instead like the error message tells her
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3:36p | Mika gets a stout, bulky mug filled with a dark heavy ale.
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3:36p | Mika eats a stout, bulky mug filled with a dark heavy ale.
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3:36p | Misune re-descs his horse into a living cart... fulfills the same general purpose
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3:37p | Galen pontificates, "Living cart! Magery!!!"
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3:37p | Otois states, "Tis witchcraft I say"
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3:37p | Xinoe states, "Pets don't drag though, so the horse and cart isn't really as available. Though I think everyone understands giving the item to a horse and emoting appropriately."
3:37p |
3:37p |
3:37p |
3:37p | Takta says, "Wardrobes restrung as little hand carts is totally fine - and great for merchants with wares."
3:37p |
3:38p |
3:38p | Xinoe pontificates, "And mounts have paces like people do too, by the way, if you weren't aware!"
3:38p |
3:38p |
3:38p | Eilyn muses, "Oo! What about mounts re-described as carriages? Could you use qp to edit the movement messages?"
3:38p |
3:38p |
3:38p | Yonatan asks, "So you can say your horse is drawing a wagon and stack it with furniture?"
3:38p |
3:38p | Mika says, "You cannot restring a horse into a carriage"
3:38p |
3:38p |
3:38p | Eilyn says, "And mounting messages/"
3:38p |
3:38p |
3:38p | Eilyn claims, "Haha ok"
3:38p |
3:38p |
3:38p | Xinoe claims, "Sorry, no, we have a policy about restringing things to be reasonably the same as their original items."
3:38p |
3:38p |
3:38p | Yonatan claims, "I mean just with the movepose"
3:38p |
3:39p |
3:39p | Otois states, "Well as long as you go across the city you can overload youself as you want and lose no move"
3:39p |
3:39p |
3:39p | Xinoe states, "You can make a wardrobe into a cart but not a pumpkin into a carriage."
3:39p |
3:39p |
3:39p | Xinoe says, "I mean a horse into a carriage."
3:39p |
3:39p |
3:39p | Otois says, "Aand then RP any sort of cart you want"
3:39p |
3:39p |
3:39p | Xinoe states, "But no pumpkin carriages either."
3:39p |
3:39p | Takta grins at Xinoe.
3:39p |
3:39p |
3:39p | Takta states, "This ain't Cinderella."
3:39p |
3:39p |
3:39p | Yonatan questions, "What about an eggshell boat? Can I do that?"
3:39p |
3:39p |
3:39p | Galen says, "Eggshell boats are fine. Not magery."
3:39p |
3:39p |
3:39p | Azarial states, "It would take more than qp; those messages are hard coded in"
3:39p |
3:39p |
3:39p | Takta says, "Okay, so, carriages may be on the cards someday! But for now, it's RP-only."
3:39p |
3:39p |
3:39p | Eilyn sings, "Impossible! For a plain yellow pumpkin to become a golden carriaaaage.
3:39p |
3:39p |
3:39p | Takta wonders, "Gretel, do you want to talk about your prison idea?"
3:39p |
3:40p |
3:40p | Eilyn pontificates, "Ok!"
3:40p |
3:40p |
3:40p | Gretel says "I only wanted to suggest an idea for the jail: a prisonner mob that anyone could log in to offer some RP to someone in jail.
3:40p |
3:40p | Cahrilee is idle.
3:40p |
3:40p |
3:40p | Takta wonders, "So an NPC anyone could control?"
3:40p |
3:40p |
3:40p | Galen says, "Ooohh, I love that idea"
3:40p |
3:40p |
3:40p | Eilyn declares, "Ooooh!"
3:40p |
3:40p |
3:40p | Gretel I think I saw somewhere those kind of NPC cold exist, yest.
3:40p |
3:40p |
3:40p | Eilyn asks, "With some restrictions I'd think, yes?"
3:40p |
3:41p |
3:41p | Gretel I think I saw somewhere those kind of NPC could exist yes. (typos)
3:41p |
3:41p |
3:41p | Eilyn asks, "Like, the mob shouldn't be able to leave the jail maybe?"
3:41p |
3:41p |
3:41p | Azarial says, "Nothing prevents someone from creating an alt, getting in trouble, and just telling the reevs to let them hang."
3:41p |
3:41p |
3:41p | Takta claims, "It'd be hard to safeguard against all the possible kinds of abuse."
3:41p |
3:41p |
3:41p | Xinoe states, "I believe we've discussed NPC jailbirds in the past actually! It might have stalled on the fairest way to implement it."
3:41p |
3:41p | Xinoe nods at Takta.
3:41p |
3:41p |
3:41p | Azarial claims, "Well. linger in jail, versus hang."
3:41p |
3:42p | Mika says to Azarial, "Important to watch your wording with that one"
3:42p |
3:42p | Shasa has lost link.
3:42p | Shasa has reconnected.
3:42p |
3:42p | Silrie giggles.
3:42p |
3:42p |
3:42p | Azarial states, "Hanging is for freemen and gentry anyways. nobs get beheaded."
3:42p |
3:42p |
3:42p | Xinoe says, "If there's not a thread about it already, I think it could be a good discussion to pick up again on the forums. A shared NPC may not be possible but we can probably hammer out some guidelines for how to get RP to people in jail if they're having trouble."
3:42p |
3:42p |
3:42p | Azarial claims, "It;s a courtesy for them to have the edge come down."
3:42p |
3:42p |
3:42p | Otois muses "when was the last noble beheading?"
3:42p |
3:42p | Takta nods at Xinoe.
3:42p |
3:43p |
3:43p | Takta claims, "Yeah, this is complicated enough that it needs extensive discussion, I think."
3:43p |
3:43p |
3:43p | Takta says, "How to provide RP for prisoners but in a fair way that can't be abused."
3:43p |
3:43p |
3:43p | Azarial wonders, "For everyone else? use a rope, it dones;t need sharpening after hitting vertebrae"
3:43p |
3:43p |
3:43p | Galen finishes abruptly, "If there's going to be extensive discussion, I think it'd be cool to discuss other similar NPCs - like barflys or street urchins and such"
3:43p |
3:43p |
3:43p | Galen says, "Just little NPCs of no consequence you can jump on to have a little fun and provide some background flavor"
3:43p |
3:43p |
3:43p | Xinoe states, "Those are always viable PC options too, keep in mind."
3:43p |
3:44p | Otois wonders to Galen, "That would take people away from roleplaying their PC for... what reason?"
3:44p |
3:44p |
3:44p | Takta says, "Some people want something different."
3:44p |
3:44p |
3:44p | Xinoe claims, "Or if you don't want to take up a slot on your account, RPechoes or retainers."
3:44p |
3:44p |
3:44p | Takta claims, "Without the commitment of a full PC."
3:44p |
3:44p | Aios claims to Otois, "To bring life to the game. And if it's a PC on their account they still get the xp"
3:44p |
3:44p |
3:44p | Galen claims, "If they're indisposed or just need a little break but don't want to commit to an alt."
3:44p |
3:44p |
3:44p | Eilyn says, "Haha, I rpechoed an urchin yesterday. It was fun."
3:44p |
3:44p | Mika nods.
3:44p |
3:45p | Cahrilee is no longer idle.
3:45p |
3:45p | Cahrilee queries, "I think all ideas have their own merrit, Otois, even if we may not see what that is right away. Different strokes for everyone, right?"
3:45p |
3:45p |
3:45p | Galen states, "Also, character creation takes a while."
3:45p |
3:46p |
3:46p | Shasa states, "I would definitely have a good time rping in prison *grin*"
3:46p |
3:46p |
3:46p | Takta says, "We'll start a forum thread to discuss all these ideas, I think."
3:46p |
3:46p |
3:46p | Cahrilee claims, "Oh god, you're telling me. The clothing. Save me from the clothing. It was fun though."
3:46p |
3:46p | Xinoe nods in agreement with Takta.
3:46p |
3:46p |
3:46p | Shasa says, "Take over an urchin and start talking about "the gold ol days with pegleg pete""
3:46p |
3:46p |
3:46p | Takta wonders, "Okay, Galen! What's your topic?"
3:46p |
3:47p |
3:47p | Galen declaims, "Oh! My turn!"
3:47p |
3:47p |
3:47p | Yonatan asks, "I need to go, can I get ported back?"
3:47p |
3:47p |
3:47p | Shasa states, "Yeah, i'm gonna head out too"
3:47p |
3:47p | Shasa begins to descend.
3:47p |
3:47p | Shasa leaves down.
3:47p |
3:48p |
3:48p | Galen trails off, "Something I wanted to bring up is that playing a GL takes a huge heck of a lot of time. It's really cool that the players have so much control over things, but it can sometimes be kind of overwhelming, especially for something that's a hobby..."
3:48p |
3:48p | Yonatan begins to descend.
3:48p |
3:48p | Yonatan leaves down.
3:48p |
3:48p |
3:48p | Takta muses to Galen, "Anything you think that could help?"
3:48p |
3:48p |
3:48p | Misune questions, "And?"
3:48p |
3:48p |
3:48p | Galen asks, "So I was wondering if we could spitball some ideas of how we could maybe cut down on the GL workload, make deferring tasks a little easier or more efficient...?"
3:48p |
3:48p |
3:48p | Misune trails off, "Could always just get a second gl..."
3:48p |
3:49p |
3:49p | Galen claims, "Having a second GL would help, of course, but that isn't always an option."
3:49p |
3:49p |
3:49p | Aios states, "I think the Roles stuff should help with that, but not sure how far along that is yet.."
3:49p |
3:49p |
3:49p | Xinoe asks, "How come?"
3:49p |
3:49p |
3:49p | Misune queries, "Yeah, how come it isn't an option?"
3:49p |
3:49p |
3:49p | Adgen claims, "Yeah a 2nd gl is the primary, not sure how many guilds actually have one right now"
3:49p |
3:49p |
3:49p | Galen states, "There's not always someone available who'd be a good fit for the position, for IC or availability reasons"
3:49p |
3:49p |
3:49p | Xinoe says, "I'm not challenging you by the way, I'm just curious what you mean."
3:49p |
3:49p |
3:49p | Misune says, "And then you put it up for app"
3:49p |
3:50p |
3:50p | Aios states, "In the absence of roles, could make up and sign a Writ Of Importance or something that gives someone the authority to do XYZ on your behalf. Just make all the decisions or whatever, but only in one specific field."
3:50p |
3:51p |
3:51p | Galen states, "Yeah, that's something I've been starting to do - it would be nice to be able to have some systematic way to assign tasks and the like, though. Perhaps that could be folded into roles."
3:51p |
3:51p |
3:51p | Xinoe claims, "You're always welcome to open it for applications, and this is not targeting anyone specifically, but sometimes it's just as good to take risks and let others already in your guild take a stab at leadership too, if there's anybody interested."
3:51p |
3:51p |
3:51p | Takta states, "Right now, there are only leader powers/non-leader powers, which is unfortunate."
3:51p |
3:51p |
3:51p | Takta trails off, "So yeah, until roles..."
3:51p |
3:51p | Mika nods.
3:51p |
3:51p |
3:51p | Xinoe states, "And, and I think you're already saying this, simply delegating tasks to other peoples is entirely within a guildleader's rights."
3:51p |
3:51p |
3:51p | Galen states, "All right, it'll have to wait until roles, and I'll just delegate tasks through existing methods where I can for now."
3:51p |
3:52p |
3:52p | Galen claims, "I'll write up a gnote about it."
3:52p |
3:52p |
3:52p | Takta asks, "Well, do we think there are any other tools we could reasonably come up with?"
3:52p |
3:52p |
3:52p | Galen declares, "I did have an idea!"
3:52p |
3:52p |
3:52p | Takta wonders, "Yeah?"
3:52p |
3:53p |
3:53p | Galen wonders, "It would be neat if there was a system for guild tasks? Like I could assign tasks to people and they'd get a notification about having pending tasks when they log in"
3:53p |
3:53p |
3:53p | Takta declaims, "Hmmm!"
3:53p |
3:53p |
3:53p | Galen states, "So if someone send me a letter saying they want a furniture made, I can post up a task to all the woodworkers, and someone could volunteer to take it"
3:53p |
3:53p |
3:53p | Misune trails off, "What kind of tasks? That's my question..."
3:53p |
3:53p |
3:53p | Galen trails off, "Or if I have someone who handles merchant licensing, or loans..."
3:53p |
3:53p |
3:53p | Silrie declaims, "Oo!"
3:53p |
3:53p |
3:53p | Galen says, "Or orienting new and seeking members"
3:53p |
3:53p |
3:53p | Takta says, "That could actually be a great system for managing delegation."
3:53p |
3:53p |
3:53p | Adgen muses, "Wouldn't gnote do that?"
3:53p |
3:53p |
3:53p | Silrie claims, "That's rather awesome."
3:53p |
3:54p |
3:54p | Takta states, "Gnotes don't alert just yet (but there is a pending spec for it)."
3:54p |
3:54p |
3:54p | Galen claims, "Gnotes are more permanent - and also people don't tend to check them."
3:54p |
3:54p | Xinoe nods.
3:54p |
3:54p |
3:54p | Misune trails off, "Yeah... that does seem like something gnote could do... easily"
3:54p |
3:54p |
3:54p | Galen claims, "And there's not really a way to assign them to people."
3:54p |
3:54p |
3:54p | Mika states, "Gnotes aren't really suited to light, single-line tasks either"
3:54p |
3:54p |
3:54p | Aios states, "They can be edited though, so you can keep a running list of one-line tasks."
3:54p |
3:54p |
3:54p | Takta states, "For the time being, you might be able to make a gnote for each 'category' of tasks and use update and we might be able to push the gnote alert spec."
3:54p |
3:54p |
3:54p | Mika says, "This is true"
3:54p |
3:54p | Mika nods.
3:54p |
3:54p |
3:54p | Adgen states, "Gnote it, make a guid channel announcement, then have anyone interested edit and add their name"
3:54p |
3:54p |
3:54p | Galen states, "Misune, keep in mind that being a knight GL is likely pretty different from being the merchant GL"
3:54p |
3:54p |
3:54p | Xinoe states, "They may work for now-"
3:54p |
3:54p | Xinoe nods at Takta.
3:54p |
3:55p |
3:55p | Takta claims, "The gnote alert spec puts an alert in your score like we get for mail, and on accounts as well, for unread gnotes."
3:55p |
3:55p |
3:55p | Galen declaims, "All right, that sounds like a good place to start!"
3:55p |
3:55p |
3:55p | Takta states, "Also alerted on log-in and in the gnote list it'd show which ones are new."
3:55p |
3:55p |
3:55p | Galen queries, "Maybe we could just have the ability to assign gnotes to people?"
3:55p |
3:55p |
3:55p | Misune says, "I'm not denying that Galen, But I'm speaking from experience having played a multitude of different gls for different guilds... Only two I don't have under my belt is merchants and court."
3:55p |
3:56p |
3:56p | Azarial claims, "Tag them with the targets name."
3:56p |
3:56p |
3:56p |
3:56p | Azarial claims, "Then people can search their name and see what is on their docket."
3:56p |
3:56p |
3:56p | Kinaed says, "You can promote ppl to gl to give them powers without ICly promoting them too."
3:56p |
3:56p |
3:56p | Galen says, "Ohh, that's an idea."
3:56p |
3:57p |
3:57p | Galen states, "But yeah, the Merchants are expected to take care of a whole lot of different stuff, much of it restricted to leadership for authorization"
3:57p |
3:57p |
3:57p |
3:57p | Takta claims, "I do think thre are different challenges in every guild."
3:57p |
3:57p |
3:57p | Mika nods.
3:57p |
3:57p |
3:57p | Galen states, "That and I am also expected to run an IC business on top of that"
3:57p |
3:58p |
3:58p | Takta claims, "So will gnotes work for you for now, do you think? They do also help to keep everyone in the loop."
3:58p |
3:58p |
3:58p | Galen says, "And I'm like the only tailor in the game right now it feels like, ahaha"
3:58p |
3:58p |
3:58p | Galen claims, "Yeah, let's see if I can get something using gnotes to work."
3:58p |
3:58p |
3:58p | Otois states, "One just came back galen ;)"
3:58p |
3:58p |
3:58p | Xinoe claims, "I like the idea of assigning tasks and I think it may have uses outside of guilds as well, for example, people looking for nannies or the church or palace wanting laborers to fix a broken fountain, or even getting volunteers for arranging plot actions."
3:58p |
3:58p |
3:58p | Mika states, "Galen dies of natural causes at 22 years old"
3:58p |
3:58p |
3:58p | Galen is already wearing a pair of bronze-framed pince nez glasses with round lenses.
3:58p |
3:58p |
3:58p | Cahrilee claims, "That makes me wonder."
3:58p |
3:58p |
3:58p | Cahrilee muses, "Could we ever apply for a position as a palace servant or something?"
3:58p |
3:58p | Mika nods at Xinoe.
3:58p |
3:59p | Takta nods at Xinoe.
3:59p |
3:59p |
3:59p | Misune claims, "All this could be solved with roles, once they come out"
3:59p |
3:59p |
3:59p | Takta states, "It might be there's an interesting system we could develop there."
3:59p |
3:59p |
3:59p | Mika claims, "I think i suggested something sort of like that for like... non-global rumours, eg, alerting the staff of a popular IC whorehouse when there's a new girl and stuff"
3:59p |
3:59p | Elzenn says to Cahrilee, "You could. There are two gentry level courtiers at the moment, I think."
3:59p |
3:59p |
3:59p | Takta claims, "Like a way to expand bounty for all KINDS of tasks."
3:59p |
3:59p | Kinaed claims to Cahrilee, "I'd just ICly talk to the Court GL for that. "
3:59p |
3:59p |
3:59p | Takta says, "But that's a bigger idea we may want to chew on for later."
3:59p |
4:00p |
4:00p | Galen questions, "Maybe a system for tasks could be considered as a part of roles?"
4:00p |
4:00p |
4:00p | Elzenn states, "And yeah, it goes through finding the right sponsors, as Kinaed says. You have to pitch it correctly."
4:00p |
4:00p |
4:00p | Galen says, "Oh, and it's also totally possible to get hired by a guild without being a member. GLs can arrange for regular payments to non-members."
4:00p |
4:00p |
4:00p | Eilyn wonders, "Ooo really?"
4:00p |
4:00p |
4:00p | Galen states, "From the guild accounts, I mean."
4:00p |
4:01p |
4:01p | Galen trails off, "Yep! So Galen could have someone paid 50 silver a week from the Merchants account to like... feed him grapes and fan him"
4:01p |
4:01p |
4:01p | Otois says, "Bodyguards, debt collectors, tree cutters"
4:01p |
4:01p |
4:01p | Eilyn applies.
4:01p |
4:01p |
4:01p | Galen says, "He won't. But he totally could."
4:01p |
4:01p |
4:01p | Takta states, "I think tasks could maybe be separate from roles, but well, hmm! Feel free to write a forum post if you have any thoughts."
4:01p |
4:01p |
4:01p | Elzenn states, "And nobles probably need all sorts of retainers. The limit is really only what you can pitch to other players."
4:01p |
4:01p |
4:01p | Takta says, "For now, we're about out of time."
4:01p |
4:01p |
4:01p | Takta exclaims, "Thank you all for coming!"
4:01p |
4:02p |
4:02p | Silrie claims, "Back to the wilds with me."
4:02p |
4:02p |
4:02p | Otois that sparked me an idea but will put it on forums as this is over
4:02p |
4:02p |
4:02p | Takta queries, "Everybody all ready for retrans?"
4:02p |