Log of OOC Meeting 2023-02-11

[Deedee]

Ghed queries, "Before we begin, folks, here's a reminder of the OOC Chat Pact: Everyone on TI does the best they can, given what they know at the time, their skills and abilities, the resources available, and the situation at hand. We will be respectful of this and each other at all times."

Today's Agenda is:
   - Staff Updates
   - Player Heartbeat
   - Player Topics

Is there anything anyone would like to add to the agenda to make certain we discuss it today? If you register a topic, please pre-write it so you're ready to present it when called upon.

Finally, who wants to scribe for today?"

Temi gives a small package of food supplies with cheery spring flowers to Gnomely.

Brockolies states, "@viper congrats casino rat"

Viper says, "None, I just gave it all to her. In her saving account thingy"

Viper claims to Deedee, "Oh I spent 500 initially"

Deedee declares, "Well, decent return then!"

Deedee asks, "No one else for scribe?"

Crownling states, "Im on my phone :("

Pauline claims, "I could do it if it helps you"

Deedee waggles fingers then.

Ghed questions, "No one else for topics?"

Ghed wonders to Pauline, "Do you want to?"

Pauline claims, "Only if DeeDee doesn't"

Ghed says to Deedee, "We'll let you do it, thanks"

Ghed says to Pauline, "Thanks too"

Ghed has awarded you 2> QPs: scribe

Deedee claims, "Okay"

Ghed states, "Okay, time to start this week's Staff Update."

Deedee says, "I'll raise a topic"

Ghed nods at Deedee.

Ghed says, "Mostly upkeep and requests this week, lots of phome updates, evictions, and restocking the auction house"

Ghed has transferred trogdor.  [OOC]

Temi gives a small package of food supplies with cheery spring flowers to trogdor.

Ghed says, "I was thinking of pursuing some mob scripting the coming week, we'll see as I gotta travel some"

Ghed claims, "Leta's busy right now but she also helped a big deal, especially with helpfiles and evictions as well."

Ghed asks of Temi, "What about you?"

Crownling claims, "Temi has been answering all my dumb questions"

Crownling bows thankfully.

Temi states, "I owe you guys a plot update with some incentive to move things along.  I'll focus on getting that out today so yell at me if I don't do that."

Temi claims, "Other than that, trying to help with requests and typos and such things, fixing some of the crafts and such.  No big exciting things."

Temi nods at Ghed.

Ghed states, "Excellent, thanks a lot"

Ghed has transferred Yinadele.  [OOC]

Crownling sneezes loudly.

Temi gives a small package of food supplies with cheery spring flowers to Yinadele.

Ghed says to Crownling, "Bless"

Ghed asks, "Alright people, let's move on to Player Heartbeat: how has the week been for y'all?"

Motherof states, "Quiet"

Motherof peers at Crownling.

Crownling squints.

Deedee states, "Busy with RL again"

Crownling states, "Its been fun"

Sue states, "I have enforced the LAW"

Dragor declaims, "Week has been going okay!"

Kalana states, "Been good, really"

Motherof exclaims, "Oh, RP? Rp has been a blast!"

Serket says, "Establishing this character, lots of fun the past two days"

Dragor claims, "Found my groove again, which is good."

Bishaar states, "I made a new figurine, that was fun. Bunch of nice scenes this week."

Crownling claims, "I had a lot of fun scenes"

Mikhail states, "I've been enjoying my new character and having a lot of fun playing something I don't usually play"

Tomato states, "Had some nice scenes here, been busyish"

Temi claims, "Can be nice to mix things up, get new inspiration."

RamblingSeert claims, "I miss my GL"

Temi grins at Mikhail.

Ghed says, "It's always good to play something different than ones' typical comfort zone"

Ghed nods at RamblingSeert.

RamblingSeert claims, "Have you seen my GL"

Ghed states to RamblingSeert, "I'll keep this in mind"

Edison asks, "Who's your GL?"

Brockolies states, "My week on TI-L has been flatlined due to my inability to sit for more than 30mins ... i have had pains in my mouth all week giving me migrane headaches and gaming has not been my focus ... i apologize for it ok. sorry :("

RamblingSeert asks, "What have you done to my GL? Have you STOLEN my GL?"

Viper burps. "Was that her?"

Edison says, "Sorry Brokc :("

Ghed states to Brockolies, "Sorry to hear that mate, don't worry about TI"

Temi declaims to Brockolies, "Ouch!  Feel better soon!"

Ghed states, "Otherwise it looks like it has been a good week for you all"

RansomWare states, "I hid in a room for 2 hours so I could jump out and surprise some people. It was a good day"

Brockolies says, "Cheers y'all ;)"

Pauline states, "Fun times"

Crownling begins to move north.

Crownling slows to a halt.

Crownling claims, "..oops"

Viper states, "You don't want to go into that room"

Temi says, "You don't want to know how many times I've done that."

Pauline states, "Lol"

Edison scans the area, examining the ground.

Trogdor says, "I had a fun week"

Crownling says, "Almost went to the pain dimension"

Viper claims, "That's Temi's playhouse. No place for us mortals."

Edison quarters the area.

Ghed trails off, "Yeah staff moves instantly between rooms so... it cuts our conversations sometimes when we want to just nod"

Edison takes a closer look at the ground.

Ghed has done it more than anyone

Temi grins at Ghed.

Ghed questions, "Alright, is there anything bothering anyone about TI that can be shared here and now?"

Motherof claims, "The new characters around the grid have been absolutely phenomenal, BTW. I keep trying to keep up on recommends, but I'm behind again."

Edison gives the area a final look-over.

Motherof claims, "(so have old ones, but, y'know: fresh meat and all that.)"

Crownling trails off, "I keep trying to find excuses to write people recommends because i like feeling nice...."

Temi grins at Motherof.

Sue claims, "Lawwwwuuuhhhh"

Mikhail says, "I have one thing to share... Where is all the flax seeds? Why do I have to keep buying them for 60 silver in the Seamstress? Very sad."

VivaLaVictoria just realized recommends exist the other day.

Tomato says, "My only thing is a reminder that if something happens in public that's moderately interesting, you should write a rumor"

Ghed says to Crownling, "You've been absolutely great about it"

Ghed asks of Mikhail, "Have you asked a merchant? the grand magnate?"

Deedee wonders, "Have you checked the directory?"

Tomato trails off, "There's been some stuff that's being wildly gossipped about but isn't a rumor... make a rumor y'all its free IP"

Ghed has transferred Winifred.  [OOC]

Crownling flips through a Merchant directory document, scouring some ink-scribbled pages.

Winifred exclaims, "Hello, hi!"

Ghed waves to Winifred.

Crownling waves to Winifred.

Temi gives a small package of food supplies with cheery spring flowers to Winifred.

Mikhail claims, "Yeah, I've talked IC about it, though not with the Grand Magnate."

Tomato queries, "Flax isn't growable to the best of my knowledge?"

Brockolies states, "Me no like the new situation where one must play 1hr RP to acess redeeming ones assets 1 per week. i have no solutions to that though. ima just kvetching that it broke my status quo :P "

Tomato says, "Its a buy-only resource"

VivaLaVictoria declares, "It should be growable!"

Deedee says, "There may be a resource for it with the assets system."

Crownling claims, "Its not listed on help plant list so it most likely is not"

Mikhail claims, "I've also asked visnet and got told that assets can sell them, sometimes, which... I checked and none of the assets sellable right now even have them, so I can't daydream like a poor person."

Motherof grins at Mikhail.

Pauline changes her hair to flaxen

Tomato states, "You can add resources to any asset you already own,I suggest the help resource file"

Ghed says to Mikhail, "We can look into it"

Tomato says, "But yeah flax you can only buy from NPC stores"

Temi claims, "We haven't been able to balance all items for growing, it's intended that there are things that have to be bought."

Ghed nods.

Tomato says, "(or buy from a resource)"

Deedee nods.

Motherof claims, "Haven't been able to balance them YET"

Mikhail states, "It just makes lightweight cloth things a lot more expensive to get than wool stuff, that's all"

Ghed claims, "For example you will never be able to grow sugar"

Ikeala claims, "Assets have to be level 2 or 3 to add a resource. The starter one can't add one just to say."

Deedee says, "Coamjar is sugar though."

Ikeala claims, "Also there's more than one place to buy cloth on grid."

Deedee states, "It's more like you'll never be able to refine sugar"

Temi states, "It is a form of sugar.  It's not the same thing."

Tomato states, "Mercantilism, the skill, also gives a chance to get a discount when purchasing items"

Tomato says, "With high mercantilism, you can get pretty good discounts on bulk purchases, driving the cost down"

Ghed claims, "Mercantilism is a great skill"

Ghed says, "Anyways, let's move on"

Ghed says, "Alright, time to move on to Player Topics."

Ghed queries to Deedee, "You had one?"

Edison looks at his shoe

Deedee nods at Ghed.

Deedee states, "I'd like to see  the improvised skill be opened up a bit more. It currently doesn't allow you to wield the majority of items you might want to, saying they're too fragile. I think would be fine if you want to use a fragile item and allow it to break on the first hit."

Brockolies states, "I agree deedee"

Jackassaurus claims, "I agree with this."

Tomato states, "That would be nice"

Temi states, "We did open it up some at one point, but I do think there's more room for it"

Jackassaurus claims, "There have been moments I have wanted to use it and was unable due to the fragility of the object, but it was a coffee mug so - i expected it to fragile and break."

Deedee nods in agreement.

Ghed states, "I don't see why not"

Ghed states, "Nothing bad with wielding a dead rat"

Ghed claims, "Or a fish like in Hercules"

Bishaar muses, "What about a carried person?"

Motherof claims, "Yeah. I would very much like to be able to use my trusty needle for more than just sewing."

Edison says, "Oh, I have an suggestion"

Bishaar asks, "Beat a motherfucker with another motherfucker, as the saying goes...?"

Ghed asks of Edison, "Yes?"

Edison claims, "But if we run out of time it's cool"

RamblingSeert points at Bishaar. "You. Keep talking."

Edison states, "Not pertaining to wielding dead rats"

Ghed claims, "Related directly -- okay"

Tomato claims, "I do know that the 'handheld iron' object is GREAT for imporvised"

Deedee says, "Aw."

Ghed says to Tomato, "Hah"

Nihil states, "I want to be able to sew my enemies' lips and eyes shut"

Brockolies says, "I want to be able to improvise with flowers and towels and other soft or breakable objects ( smirk )"

Viper claims, "I'm envisioning hillbeast doing this"

Ghed nods at Viper.

Deedee says, "You can use a blindfold for the eyes at least, Nihil."

Temi claims, "I don't think people you are using 'carry' with are on the docket, due to completely different systems"

Winifred says, "Please do not empower Ahna further, she is already too powerful"

Temi states, "Dead bodies, maybe."

Edison states, "I want to beat someone so hard with a bar of iron that it forges it into a sword >:("

Pauline scoots away from the violent ones

Sue says, "Sorry we've reclaimed that word now"

Winifred says, "I live in fear of the day she realizes I exist,"

Sue states, "'hillbeast'"

Viper says, "Psh"

Trogdor claims, "Miss Hillbeast"

Ikeala says, "If people want to test things against dead bodies, hit me up. Low rates."

Ghed states to Deedee, "Bottom line: yes"

Ghed grins at Ikeala.

Deedee says, "Thanks"

Mikhail says, "Mrs. Hillbeast soon according to the rumors."

Sue says, "No"

Nameless states, "Lowest rates if you supply the body."

Viper claims, "I would like a human skin leather armor set"

Deedee muses, "I think that's possible?"

Sue claims, "Hm"

Mikhail looks at Viper "Bruh."

Edison says, "'The skin of the person I killed will surely protect me better than it did them'"

Deedee says, "Remember to skin your kills before butchering them."

Ghed states, "Remember to kill your victims before skinning them"

Ikeala states, "The 'normals' are starting to scare me."

Kalana states to Edison, "The skin of the peroson I killed will clearly creep out everyone else."

Deedee claims to Ghed, "Optional."

Serket states, "Staff have already advised at a previous meeting that they are happy to RPA human pieces"

Nameless says, "And they say that we're the evil ones"

Sue asks, "Binding books in human flesh?"

Crownling says, "Im the most normal person in here."

Ghed claims, "Ahem"

Jackassaurus states, "Remember to have rank in it before trying to butcher as well"

Motherof says, "Yes. This has been done in the past. I can testify."

Brockolies claims, "Y'all making me lol when my jaw hurts ... evil ones is hardly a wrong poke at ye egos."

Ghed asks, "Do we have any other topic?"

Motherof claims, "Preserved parted human parts, I mean."

Temi wonders, "Did Edison have a topic?"

Edison says, "I did :O"

Ghed nods.

Ghed asks of Edison, "What's up bud?"

Edison claims, "Right now Ahalin tower is Ahalin Oubliette - I think we should have different levels for different classes - witches in the basement, freemen on ground floor, gentry a level higher, and then like... a posh, decked out 5 star hotel room for arrested nobles."

Edison states, "WHAT ARE ON THE OTHER FLOORS, GHED, WE DON'T USE THEM. IT'S A PIT"

Deedee says, "There are two levels presently"

Temi trails off, "While thematically that sounds lovely..."

Brockolies raises an eyebrow

Temi claims, "It's designed that there's all the people locked together so they can RP together"

Deedee claims, "The common cells, and the deep"

Tomato states, "They did have a pit they threw mages in previously, they stopped doing that because it cut them off from RP"

Mikhail says, "TFW the noble prison is better than my house."

Jackassaurus says, "I think it was made the way it was to accommodate RP"

Ghed states, "Yeah there's rarely more than 1 people at all in the tower"

Jackassaurus states, "Er... yeah, what Temi said."

Temi claims, "But I have thought it's odd it's a tower that goes down"

Sue trails off, "My tower......"

Ghed says, "It's why we discourage putting them separate at all in the extra cell room"

Temi claims, "Maybe we need some different sorts of rooms going up."

Edison claims, "Maybe have exits that lead back to their cells and the common areas"

Tomato states, "One of my alts spent like a week down in the Abyss, I don't recommend it"

Ghed says, "And yes it's more of a thing that has shifted its purpose across the years, and much of the tower is kept kinda vague and background-t"

Tomato says, "Jail is already sort of bad enough, is it so hard to just RP the other portions of the tower being in use"

Ghed states, "Like the up-down rooms of the tower are kinda meh"

Deedee says, "I've some ideas in mind for lockup stuff, but will check about it if/when I ever have a reeve GL character"

Ghed says, "But there are rooms that are super restricted even to reeves and knights"

Motherof queries, "Turn the upper rooms into... a library?"

Bishaar states, "It is a generational prison older than most people even have coherent records of, I assume the upper floors are ENTIRELY filled with hoarder junk and it's inaccessible."

Sue trails off, "My tower....................."

Motherof wonders, "A harem?"

Edison states, "That's where they keep the bumper pool table that only Zarif is allowed to use >:("

Mikhail states, "There's a basketball court up at the top of Ahalin tower."

Jackassaurus shifty eyes.

trogdor says OOCly, "It's actually a pool"

Ikeala says, "Wait, you guys have a billards table? Man."

Edison slams dunks and accidentally falls off the tower

Winifred states, "The top of Ahalin Tower is where the Lord of the Springs is"

Tomato questions, "Have you checked out the pool on the roof?"

Winifred says, "He's just vibing there"

Nameless claims, "Well i HAVE to come over for a visit now"
Temi questions to Ghed, "Do you think they'd be upset if we burned down the reeve and knight halls?"

Nameless says, "If there's a pool table."

Sue says, "It's our tower we just let the knights use it (unless they misbehave)"

Trogdor states, "The knights use it to re-enact scenes from "Tubori Love Part Two: Sheathing the Sword""

Jackassaurus states, "I am curious if there is a real need for 45 locked doors though."

Winifred says to Temi, "Please do :)"

Deedee states, "The tower is named after a Knight, so not so sure about that, Sue."

Sue says, "It's attached to MY BASE"

Ghed says, "Your base is attached to it"

Jackassaurus says, "I mean beyond the xblocks, there's like four doors to open and close"

Tomato states, "RPA can get you past xblocks  so each locked door is technically a real IC layer of security for jailbreaks"

Brockolies questions, "I dont think yelling between rooms generates RP etc very well. I am against it , but it is an interesting idea as maybe gentry and nobles could pay for such a privilege eh?"

Sue claims, "I'll build my own tower with blackjack and hookers, we'll call it Ahnalin Tower"

Ghed says to Edison, "I'll think about adding rooms, but with the Keep and Reeve HQ so close by there's not a lot that I can make that would see any use."

Pauline claims, "I wonder how many in a thief has gotten"

Edison exclaims, "Brock made a good point! Everyone look at Brock :O"

RamblingSeert gives Trogdor the look. The 'you should pyre yourself NOW' look. That one.

Edison claims, "-pay- for private rooms at Ahalin is on point"

Mikhail says, "I can't wait to get arrested and be tortured in the pit someday :D"

Jackassaurus claims, "It's too secure then, I implore and encourage more break out attempts."

Nameless claims, "They keep the rack in a separate room actually"

Bishaar states, "Make it an empty room with a Forage list of random, strange items."

Motherof claims, "The last time I was in jail, which was recently, I was super disappointed that the window didn't work for RP rooms adjacent to the cellblock, but I think I grumbled about that already."

Edison says, "One of these days, I want Ikeala to go ham and storm Ahalin solo"

Bishaar states, "Two-hundred-year-old cheese rind."

Tomato questions, "The window should allow normal says, I think, to pass through, right?"

Ikeala ponders for a bit.

Motherof states, "It does not."

RamblingSeert watches a finger on the monkey's paw curl just for Jackassaurus.

Winifred claims to Edison, "I don't think you want that actually"

Winifred muses to Edison, "I think that would end badly actually???"

Brockolies has lost link.
Brockolies has reconnected.

Sue claims, "Anyone who touches my tower inappropriately gets the cane"

Motherof claims, "Rpyells didn't work either. But yells themselves did."

Edison claims, "I do I do I do"

Sue states, "That means you ikeala"

Motherof states, "So I yelled a lot."

Deedee states, "Making it difficult for me not to blab about my idea for jail right now."

Nameless claims, "Unfortunately code blocks us from any surprise visits"

Gnomely is idle.

Nameless claims, "Unless rpa is used"

Temi says to Deedee, "I don't think we have a lot of other topics"

Gnomely is no longer idle.

Edison says, "Nah, it's been a quiet week :)"

Ghed claims to Deedee, "Yeah tell us"

RamblingSeert states, "I'm going to look Sue in the eye and lick the wall of Ahalin tower."

Deedee states, "Oof. well, um."

Gnomely has returned from AFK.

Dragor is idle.

RamblingSeert says, "She might kill me, but I'll win in the end."

Nameless sits down and rests.

Bishaar states, "You cannot un-lick Ahalin Tower."

Ikeala says, "I do wonder though, there was a period of time where were a lot of thoughts/RP/brainstorming about various non-jail punishments. I do wonder if some of those might encourage more RP than more reasons to put people in jail."

Sue claims, "I can remove the offending tongue"

Winifred claims, "She can kill the man. But ideas, Miss Kar Imaeh, are arrest-proof."

RamblingSeert claims, "Paynifier herself would probably understand."

Mikhail states, "Licking the Ahalin Tower sounds like a euphemism ."

Sue claims, "I have to say I am surprised we don't have stockades"

Temi states, "We already strongly push towards not putting people in jail as a punishment"

Deedee claims, "I'll post a pboard to staff on it, but basically it would be seperate from Ahalin."

Gnomely states, "We do have stockades. But it's based on player trust."
Ghed nods at Deedee.

Motherof asks, "We don't have a stockade? Where did it go?"

Sue claims, "So I can lock people in River Square to have tomatoes thrown at them"

Motherof states, "Ah"

Gnomely claims, "You can lock people on the Crossroads."

Deedee says, "For stays only up to 24 OOC hours"

Crownling says, "Put people in a prison camp and make them work their way out"

Pauline says, "Lol"

Ghed says to Ikeala, "I'm not sure why people arrest so quickly -- lash and fine on the spot seems more useful if you have someone who has the authority for it around"

Deedee says, "And an exit will appear after that"

Mikhail says, "Here's the thing, most jail stuff I've seen has been "lock somebody up-> they get the pyre", I don't see many people getting punishments other than that."

Temi says, "We do have stockade options, though they've been a bit awkward"

Deedee states, "Just a moment"

Deedee claims, "Oh, right. I'm logging. Will post it after."

Gnomely questions to Temi, "Now that we have ground-based instruments couldn't we add an item kinda like that?"

Mikhail says, "So stockades and other stuff is good and fine for brainstorming but it probably won't be used"

Gnomely says, "Using the similar code."

Temi says to Gnomely, "Different problem."

Gnomely states, "Oh."

Deedee claims, "My idea will allow visitors and such as well- but they will be locked in for as long as the prisoner is."

Mikhail claims, "There's been like five pyrings and one lashing that I've seen on my time here."

Gnomely questions, "Could we do like a gibbet cage instead?"

Crownling claims, "Introduce gladiator pits where petty prisoners have to tear each other apart and they let the most amusing one go"

Jackassaurus states, "The Inquisition uses it for interrogations often."

Jackassaurus trails off, "Oh ... yes, let them fight"

Temi states, "There may be ways to adjust for it, though I think the main way it's been done is restraints that lock on and just they can't walk away with it."

Pauline claims, "Big Brother house"

Ghed states to Mikhail, "We used to have years of WAY more, and WAY less"

Tomato states, "I'd support a stockade option, but yes our recent arrests have been after a lot of evidence has been found"

Dragor is no longer idle.
Dragor has returned from AFK.

Deedee states, "Oh I mixed that up, my proposal is for up to 24 IC hours, so 6 OOC hours."

Tomato trails off, "Having had a knight alt I can say that usually the Inquisition tries to hold off until they have solid evidence, which means... more leeway for you but harder to wiggle out of"

Nameless claims, "My experience has been the opposite"

Tomato claims, "It would be technically more themely to arrest more and release more also, but its SO HARD time match up schedules sometimes so thats not really feasible to do in RP"

Mikhail states, "They do? I've pretty much thought if someone ends up in Ahalin they're pretty much ripe for the pyre, not interrogated."

Crownling claims, "Im still rather relatively new, does being canned always result in being turned into a human chicken drum or have people weaseled their way out before"

Deedee claims, "It depends"

Ghed claims, "Not at all, some people have been arrested for magic and released"

Deedee nods.

Tomato trails off, "Yeah you get interrogated, but you have to like, not say 'yep you got me im a mage/heretic' which... is what the past several have done"

Ghed says, "For a variety of reasons, though it's not often"

Ghed declares to Tomato, "Let's not share in-character info!"

Ghed says, "Though I appreciate the sentiment"

Tomato states, "Ah, right. Just a reminder that lying IS feasible and an option"

Ghed claims, "And repenting"

Ghed nods.

Jackassaurus says to Mikhail, "And a lot of cnotes are usually already written up prior to that, there has been investigation prior hand."

Deedee says, "Even being a heretic isn't a death sentence if you repent and lick Dav's boots."

Tomato claims, "It can feel very 'its over' when you're arrested and that can lead people to give up and not want to RP it out, also"

Ghed claims, "Jail RP is understandably a very slow experience so generally reeves and inquisitors hold off their hand as much as they can"

Ghed nods at Tomato.

Mikhail says, "Oh I know that investigation is done beforehand and cnotes and such, I just saw Ahalin as the final step if the Inquisition is absolutely sure somebody is a Mage, not interrogation/a step."

Bishaar states, "Prison seems fun for neither the prisoner nor the gaolers, so."

Ghed claims to Mikhail, "Sometimes there's suspicion but they don't want the person to get away for whatever reason"

Ghed says, "I've even seen people arrested for magery to -protect- them from other player characters"

Ghed says, "When the charges weren't real"

Deedee nods.

Jackassaurus claims to Mikhail, "Or maybe a chance to share secret information."

Tomato queries, "Perhaps we could try to make it easier to visit someone in jail if you don't have a free pass in?"

Motherof states, "Sometimes people turn themselves in, too."

Bishaar states, "What Ghed is saying is clearly we need to be more devious as a current community. "

Nameless says, "I have thought it strange that the window in the cells shows river square but you can't yell or rpyell through it."

Jackassaurus trails off to Mikhail, "Information enough to see freedom and redemption..."

Motherof says, "For cleansing."

Ghed says to Tomato, "I mean there's 4 guilds that can go there"

Deedee states, "They can bring visitors too."

Ghed claims to Nameless, "It's a code issue, windows only show photographs of other rooms"

Deedee states, "Or you can punch an NPC guard and be sent there"

Temi states, "The individual times of how things can be handled will be different depending on who is handling them too"

Trogdor sneezes loudly.

Nameless says, "Ah"

Motherof states, "Quiet"

Mikhail states, "Bless you."

Crownling claims, "Lord bless"

Ghed nods at Temi.

Ghed states, "Active, available law types are great when you get your ass jailed"

Tomato wonders, "Maybe lets just remember that as reeves you can issue a fine on the spot? The legal system is not really the same as IRL"

Temi states, "Some may jump on things more quickly, some may wait more, some may rely on more or less torture, etc."

Mikhail trails off, "Don't empower Ahna further..."

Temi nods in agreement with Tomato.

Tomato claims, "If you're a Reeve, you literally are the law, able to mete out that punishment on the spot. Trials are really ONLY for nobles"

Tomato states, "And you don't need to arrest someone to decide a punishment, you can just do it"

Jackassaurus says, "Nonsense... let her be the strong, independent Hillwoman the Lord intended her to be."

Nameless trails off, "Keep in mind that actions have consequences though...."

Sue trails off, "Don't look at me we ain't been arresting people....."

Deedee says, "Nobles or for certain charges"

Deedee wonders, "If you were trying to overthrow the crown? You get a trial"

Sue says, "Except npcs but who cares about them (joker smile)"

Tomato says, "Treason is sort of its own thing, but that's less a trial and more a 'wait here while we get the horses to draw and quarter you'"

RamblingSeert looks at Marcus, looks at Sue.

RamblingSeert also looks at Oskar.

Ghed nods at Nameless.

Edison states, "I think if you're noble, you should have an option to 'bribe' your way out of Ahalin dependent on your crime <_<"

Yinadele states, "TI is the nicest game about prisons so far, I have to say."

Ghed claims, "Of course, if you get too trigger happy you can simply get mobbed to death"
RansomWare is idle.
Serket is idle.

RansomWare is no longer idle.
RansomWare has returned from AFK.

Goodman wonders, "Did you know you have rights?"

Ghed says to Edison, "That's called paying a fine"

Goodman says, "Erra Pater says you do."

Tomato states, "Well, nobles can ONLY be arrested by the Grand Inquisitor's order or the Justiciar's"

Tomato says, "So they sort of already do"

Gnomely claims, "When you play a Reeve, you are a Skyrim Guard."

Nameless says, "Actually ti doesnt"

Deedee claims, "Nobles can only be jailed/charged with permission from the king"

Edison states, "Yeah, but like, for reasonably -bad- crime"

Gnomely pontificates, "You have violated the law of Lithmore and her people, what say you in your defense?!"

Sue states, "NEVER SHOULD HAVE COME HERE"

Viper states, "I like turtles."

Tomato claims, "Well, if they are suspected of magery/heresy, the GI can approve it w/o the king, Religion is separate from state"

Goodman claims, "Your honor my client was just getting a little silly"

Winifred claims, "THIS IS THE PART WHERE YOU FALL DOWN AND BLEED TO DEATH"

Edison claims, "Like, lets say Ahna goes an arrests a noble for beating a freeman bloody - it'd be funny if the noble could do an RPA and 'bribe' a magistrate to drop the charges."

Sue claims, "I can't do that fool"

Edison says, "You could try"

Sue says, "There's nothing about that that is illegal"

Edison states, "Fine, open it up to gentry"

Nameless states, "Technically she'd be breaking the law to do it"

Tomato claims, "Ahna can't arrest a noble, fullstop"
Deedee nods.

Edison finishes abruptly, "What I'm saying is - the legal system needs to be more corrupt"

Deedee says, "Nobility is above the law"

Tomato states, "I know theres a helpfile somewhere about it"

Sue claims, "Unless a writ of arrest was approved by the justiciar and the crown that's it"

Sue claims, "FOOL"

Motherof claims, "Ahhhh, corrupt reeves. Those are my absolute favorite. <3"

Deedee says, "Only the Justiciar/GI can bring charges against a noble, but only with the King's approval"

Edison looks at mother >:C

Nameless states, "The GI has done so without the kings approval before"

Jackassaurus queries, "What is corrupt in the eyes of a King?"

Sue claims, "I think the legal system should only be corrupt if the players choose to be corrupt"

Tomato states, "To the best of my knowledge the GI does not need the approval of the King"

Trogdor says, "GI can do it too"

Tomato says, "Since the King is no longer the Patriarch of the Order, and thus has no power over the Order"

Crownling states, "The best kind of cops are the ones that only care when they arent getting a cut"

Nameless claims, "I would actaully like it if the GI was beholden to the king as well"

Deedee states, "Right, GI would need it from the cardinal"

Sue says, "I can guarantee you if I put a gentryperson in Ahalin my nose will be up their ass because I love dunking on rich people as a funny freeman empowered by the badge"

Deedee says, "My bad"

Edison finishes abruptly, "You get the point I'm making - even the IRL law system is borked, the fantasy version shouldn't be more infallible :P"

Ghed states, "The GI is not beholden to anyone except, perhaps, the Cardinal"

Ghed claims, "Of course there -is- a little wiggle room"

Motherof claims, "Sounds like plot mechanism stuff, Edison."

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Ghed asks, "Like what happens if the GI and Justiciar try to arrest each other?"

Ghed says, "Up to you guys to see whom you like more, or who pays more"

Deedee becomes GI. Arrests the king.

Crownling wonders, "A coup?"

Nameless muses, "Thematically or mechanically?"

Viper claims, "I arrested a GI once"

Viper says, "As Proconsul"

Tomato says, "Depends on the charges and how many knights are around"

Nameless wonders, "Did you have a warrant from the justiciar?"

Edison states, "I had a game on BuRP where my Earl Marshall had a warrant out by a Justiciar who was also the head of the Brotherhood :S"

Pauline claims, "New plot story yay"

Tomato sideyes

Edison says, "Those were weird times"

Bishaar states, "See, if the GI arrests a noble for magery, I think they'd send a letter to the King and politely request that noble's entire lineage record.

You know, just in case."

Viper states, "There was no Justiciar for like 3 IRL months"

Sue states, "I am the law"

Edison drinks from a simple leather waterskin, sealed with a tightly-fit cork.

Viper finishes abruptly, "And I caught her doing bad stuff breaking law - arrested her, and she basically just unarrested herself with the knights"

Nameless trails off, "Imagine if the justiciar said that pyres counted as murder..."

Viper says, "And I was but a Charali savage and the RP was great. "

Deedee questions, "What was the topic again?"

RansomWare claims, "Ed pays me, so I agree with everything he says regardless of context or if I was paying attention (I'm painting minis)"

Particles of light coalesce to form Leta. [OOC]
VivaLaVictoria is idle.

Leta has returned from AFK.

Kalana waves to Leta.

Leta waves.

Deedee claims, "Oh, a wild Leta appears."

Kalana gives a small package of food supplies with cheery spring flowers to Leta.

Tomato queries, "I think we are getting a bit off topic here, were there other topics?"

Brockolies states, "At viper ...  cough , I tried to fix that and i successfully suxed at it. "

Leta states, "It is I"

Leta grins.

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VivaLaVictoria has returned from AFK.

Sue claims, "Edison wants the legal system to be more corrupt and I'm going to corrupt his knee with a lead pipe"

Deedee muses to Sue, "Can you arrest imms?"

Crownling says, "We didnt invent those yet"

Sue says, "Maybe"

Serket says, "Say that to the sewers"

Nameless queries, "Did you know that the arrest command does work on staff characters?"

Nameless states, "The more you know"

Ghed claims, "I will will you out of existence."

Pauline says, "Lol"

Sue states, "Arrest ghed"

Pauline states, "He'll eat you"

Winifred says, "Restrain ghed"

Nameless claims, "You're really tempting me"

Edison trails off, "Guess you can say it's time.... to ghed even :)"

Sue dissolves into dust.

Brockolies guards ghed

Ghed states, "Okay, I think we're all done here."

Ghed states, "I can send you all back a little earlier."

Deedee questions to Leta, "Maybe you can do your staff update before we poof?"

Viper states, "Now you've offended him"

RamblingSeert smells magery.

Leta claims, "Drat. Just when I arrived"

Sue claims, "The darkest hour is dust before dawn"

Leta claims to Deedee, "Sure"

Motherof says to Leta, "Edison have his fun."

Sue states, "I will get you next"

Motherof says, "Leta Edison have his fun."

Motherof fails.

Edison states, "Leta my people go <- Mario playing Moses"

RamblingSeert states, "Ghed me the hell outta here"

Motherof waves.

Motherof says, "It's been real,party people."

Leta states, "I had a light week, took a mini-vacay to avoid burnout. Mostly handled Real Estate and evictions, updated a couple helpfiles. Also realized some of the old phomes had been cleaned a bit TOO thoroughly and were missing amenities, so added those back in."

Leta exclaims, "That's all!"

Crownling states, "Bye bye you"

Leta exclaims, "Bye friends!"

Pauline waves.

Deedee declares, "Thanks!"

Brockolies says, "Cheers everybody"

Sue eats a small package of food supplies with cheery spring flowers.

Deedee waves.

Jackassaurus states, "Spank us"

Crownling releases flatulence.

Deedee spanks Jackassaurus. 

Jackassaurus states, "We've been naughty."

VivaLaVictoria blows kisses.

Leta trails off, "3..."

Leta trails off, "2..."

Sue states, "Remember obey the law or i'll find you"

RamblingSeert points to Leta. "That why my home apparently has a hothouse but it's kinda... non-existant?"

RansomWare states, "I think Leta is nice. Frick the rest of y'all"

Motherof claims, "Save that for Ahalin, Jacka."

Pauline states, "Welcome to the Castle Anthrax"

Leta trails off, "1..."

Leta trails off, "0.5...."