April 13 2024 OOC Meeting
Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:02 pm
Temi grins.
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say wooo cookies
InvestSouthside claims, "Wooo cookies"
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inventory
InvestSouthside is carrying:
snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors
a set of bone china cups decorated with precious metal leaf
a rich dark oil painting finalized with clear matte varnish
a drawstring bag made of scratchy, wool yarn granny squares labeled as 'coffee and pigeons'
a small wooden practice dagger with a careful, even balance
( 2)a pair of plain copper earrings
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appraise cookie
InvestSouthside carefully considers snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
The following information is recorded about it:
Each cookie is roughly bite-sized, snowflake arms stretching a couple of
fingers across from side-to-side. They are all subtly different, a pattern
of geometric angles and lacy curls. The cookie base itself is brown and
thin, softly crispy, while a sweet layer of frosting colored in different
warm autumnal hues - browns and reds and yellows and oranges - coats the top
of each piece.
It seems to be priced at less than a gold.
This 'snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors' is a kind of food.
It has 3 bites remaining, which should be about 100% of the original batch.
It appears to be made of food.
It looks to be in excellent condition.
It weighs around 0 pounds.
It can be worn as follows: take
It could be easily held in one hand. (Actual size: 2)
It seems to be worth less than a gold.
It should provide 47 energy per bite.
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Valora exclaims, "Yay cookies!"
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Maeve has transferred trogdor. [OOC]
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Maeve states to trogdor, "Please grab a cookie "
Capitalism puts the following into a luxe leather satchel, embroidered with stylish sunflowers:
a wedge of natural tourmaline with a watermelon polychromia
a measure of powdery vanilla sugar in a ribboned sachet bag
several Vandagan crystal snowflakes sparkling prismatically
an assortment of geometric tiles carved from alabaster bone
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Capitalism ponders.
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Maeve has transferred ThatBard. [OOC]
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Trogdor exclaims, "BURNINATING THE VILLAGE! BURNINATING THE COUNTRY SIDE!"
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Maeve claims to ThatBard, "Please grab a cookie "
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ThatBard gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
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Karrin says to trogdor, "Don't forget the peasants."
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Maeve pats trogdor on the shoulder.
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Capitalism has lost link.
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Temi nods in agreement with Karrin.
Maeve finishes abruptly, "OOC Chat Agenda:
- Reminder to be kind
- Pick a Scribe
- Announcements
- Register Player Topics
- Staff Topics/Updates
- Player Topics
- Player Experiences"
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Trogdor says, "They were already burninated "
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Maeve queries, "Anyone want to be scribe?"
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say i can if no one else wants to
InvestSouthside states, "I can if no one else wants to"
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Maeve pontificates to InvestSouthside, "Thank you!"
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Capitalism has reconnected.
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Maeve has awarded you 2 QPs: Scribe
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Maeve states, "Please be kind during OOC Chat. This means be mindful of personal remarks, treat
others the way you'd want to be treated, and don't share OOC information that ought not to be shared
publicly. This space is for players to discuss the game with staff to make it better for everyone.
Please bring personal grievances or story concerns to me outside of OOC Chat."
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Maeve has transferred Brando. [OOC]
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Maeve has transferred Meiari. [OOC]
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Maeve says, "If you don't have a cookie, please feel free to grab one. "
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Brando gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
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Meiari gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
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Meiari lifts snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors to her nose and sniffs at
it.
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say what the government doesnt want you to know is the peasants are the free fire wood
InvestSouthside states, "What the government doesnt want you to know is the peasants are the free
fire wood"
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Maeve wonders, "I can't think of any announcements from my side. Anyone have anything? Any players
want to plug events or other fun things?"
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Capitalism eats a loaf of simple bread.
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Karrin claims, "Don't forget the offer for the QP to open up items of older coloring, instead of
using silver. That'll be up until the end of the month."
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Capitalism eats a steamy dish of saffron tinted, cashew-raisin biryani rice.
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Maeve smiles at Karrin.
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Capitalism ponders.
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Capitalism eats a week's worth of traveler's rations.
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Capitalism gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
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Trogdor wonders, "Anyway for those of us with less artistic talent to tell if something is 'older
coloring' vs 'newer coloring'?"
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Capitalism exclaims, "Cookie achieved!"
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say come and kidnap a local merchant to go through things with you?
InvestSouthside wonders, "Come and kidnap a local merchant to go through things with you?"
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Karrin says, "You could look at the tooling and see if it has the { colors, or if it has the <>
colors. But, really, I guess it could go to anything that wants to be opened for recoloring. No skin
off my teeth."
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Trogdor trails off, "Like, all i see are basically red, yellow, orange, brown, green, black, blue,
purple ... maybe gray"
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Maeve wonders to trogdor, "You just don't like it, maybe? (Older coloring is limited to the 16
colors at the top of help color, I think?)"
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Temi claims, "If you read help color, the old ones are only that. top set"
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Maeve wonders, "Have you turned xterm on?"
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Karrin says, "Make sure you have xterm turned on. I don't think it defaults as on."
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Trogdor declares, "It's on... my S.O critiques me all the time, "how can you not tell that is
periwinkle?!?!?!?!""
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Temi has transferred Sparkles. [OOC]
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Maeve chuckles.
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Karrin says, "It's the difference between using only those things in HELP COLOR versus using HELP
GRADIENT."
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Trogdor trails off, "Or ashgray... or mauve with hints of turquoise "
Meiari stares at Trogdor in color theory, "My good sir... you wound me."
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Maeve comforts trogdor.
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Temi states, "If the colors don't bother you, don't worry about getting the restring"
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Karrin states, "Or that."
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Trogdor says, "I'm more concerned about getting the things for the guild restringed"
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Maeve says, "Pretty sure you're using some of the xterm colors in your OOC name "
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Maeve nods at trogdor.
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Maeve states to trogdor, "You can submit requests for that too."
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Sparkles starts to move towards the south and west.
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Sparkles gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
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Karrin states, "If you'd like to just steal me sometime, I can go through and take a look. I'd
totally be open to prettying up the guild furniture, and the like."
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Maeve asks, "Anyone have any player topics they want to register to make sure we get to them today?"
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Trogdor says, "Done deal! I will hit you up out of ooc chat "
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Karrin claims, "Coolio. Just let me know, and we'll find a time."
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Trogdor claims, "Just don't expect me to offer coloring advice, cause i'll just say 'red and black,
as is proper for the Holy Order'"
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Karrin says, "If I open it, you can get some volunteer to come through and make it pretty. I'll
leave it open."
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Maeve says, "Guessing there are no topics, so moving on to Staff Updates. Last week, I ran a staff
meeting, wrote one or two little policy things, and was pretty unavailable due to IRL stuff like my
mom needing urgent medical and stuff (she is fine)."
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Maeve says, "This week, I'll ideally run another staff meeting, and maybe see if I can get Eurus to
tutor me a bit more for some more small code fixes as he has been teaching me."
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Maeve muses to Karrin, "Would you like to go next?"
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Karrin says, "Sure."
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Sparkles has lost link.
Sparkles has reconnected.
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Karrin states, "I have mostly been tottling around taking care of requests for housing purchases.
And little things, like dressing poor, naked Vandagan shopkeepers."
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Capitalism has lost link.
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Maeve smiles at Karrin.
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Maeve states to Temi, "Your turn "
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Valora wonders, "There was a... what?"
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say he was just prepping for the ice bucket challenge
InvestSouthside says, "He was just prepping for the ice bucket challenge"
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Temi says, "I am out of town this weekend, so not terribly productive. Some of the low level
requests and replying to questions. I should be back tomorrow "
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Maeve smiles.
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Brando laughs in lithmorran at naked vandagans
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Temi nods at Maeve.
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Maeve questions, "That's it for staff updates. What was the game like for people this week?"
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Brando says, "I did some mail, paid some tax and that was it so far for me."
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Valora states, "I'm having a good time. Met some new folks, learned a lot, been good."
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say It has been good
InvestSouthside states, "It has been good"
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Maeve claims, "That's good "
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Temi grins.
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Maeve states, "Okay, let's move onto Player Topics "
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Maeve queries to Sparkles, "You have something? "
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Sparkles claims, "So, given some chat earlier in the week and something that's been hinted at in
previous meetings, I've been pondering how exactly to bring up this topic for a bit. Because I know
sometimes open ended questions can feel pointed, however, I'd like to bring up a bit of a groupthink
about how there has been a growing tendency to conflate "a bad idea in character/controversial etc"
with "against theme"."
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Trogdor states, "Can you give an example? "
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Maeve questions, "Oh, that's an interesting topic. Can I check if 'a bad idea' and 'against theme'
is also meant to equate with 'against policy'?"
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Maeve declaims, "I personally, firmly believe there is nothing wrong with being a jerk, breaking the
law, etc. So 'it could get you into trouble ICly' != 'against policy'"
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Temi says, "This is also part of why staff has a policy of not commenting on rp"
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Sparkles claims, "I think sometimes, yes."
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Maeve nods at Temi.
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Maeve nods at Sparkles.
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Maeve states, "I agree with Trogdor, some examples - probably best if you make a few up rather than
use anything recent - would be helpful. I know a common one I see is people OOCly wanting to
enforce, for example, sumptuary."
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Karrin states, "It is perfectly within policy to be spoopy ICly and break IC laws/norms/etc."
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Trogdor claims, "For me, the 'keep theme' is mostly a character RP thing for enforcement.. eg:
reeves/order... the only outliers to that is if someone says they take out their AK-47 and starts
blasting or something. that's up to staff to figure out."
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Sparkles claims, "Things like courtesy or IC social rules, yes, is a good example. "
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Brando trails off, "Inviting somebody ... and then attacking them is AGAINST policy for example"
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Sparkles states, "Things where 'not doing these things might have negative consequences ICly'"
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Trogdor muses, "Eg, bowing and such?"
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Sparkles says, "That's one example, yes. In short, that sometimes rather than let things play out
negatively and thus led to conflict/controversy/negative stuff etc, folks can get more inclined to
point out helpfiles, infer about policy/rules, etc."
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Maeve nods.
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Karrin says, "I think that whether that slips OOC should depend on if the character is a cyan or
not."
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Brando nods
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Maeve nods at Karrin.
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Karrin states, "If they are cyan, then negative consequences should be warned about in an OOC manner
to make sure their actions intentionally are ones to create conflict. If they are not cyan, it
should roll IC and people shouldn't be slipping into OOC helpfiling about it."
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Temi says, "Yeah, but then let them continue once they understand if they want "
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Trogdor muses, "So my follow up question, assuming they are not cyan, do you mean people demanding
others bow to them, and then if they don't they reference a help file that says others should?"
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Maeve questions, "But beyond alerting a cyan person that something could have negative consequences
and allowing them to walk it back, Staff wouldn't enforce anything like this. I think people may
feel like they need help files or something to back them up when taking IC action lest they be
perceived poorly?"
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Karrin states, "Oh, absolutely."
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Temi nods in agreement.
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Brando nods
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Karrin claims to trogdor, "I think whether someone would demand a bow would depend on the
character."
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Trogdor claims, "Right -- i suppose i'm still trying to hone in on the issue"
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Karrin claims to trogdor, "My apologies. I re-read your request for clarification."
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Maeve questions, "I am guessing that the issue is that people cut off "out of theme" behavior OOCly
rather than address it ICly?"
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Maeve says to Sparkles, "Please correct me if I'm wrong."
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Sparkles claims, "Mostly, it is that the collective playerbase consciousness sees theme as both
'what should be standard Lithmorran belief/behavior on something' and 'what the rules say people
should be doing' things too easily slip from the implication something that is not the first is also
not the second."
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Maeve nods at Sparkles.
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Temi nods.
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Trogdor trails off, "Well... imho, people should rarely slip to ooc stuff for something like that"
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Maeve agrees with trogdor.
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Temi nods in agreement.
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Temi states, "That would be official staff policy"
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Capitalism has reconnected.
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Capitalism exclaims, "Internet!"
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Capitalism mutters under his breath.
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Maeve states, "Shouldn't and don't have a bit of space between them though. I've seen this happen a
lot. In fact, we had a policy case some 3-4 weeks ago where a player didn't like the way another
player was doing things based on their perception of theme. They reported it, we replied that
nothing in there was against policy. But day to day, this has to do with how players interact, and
it sounds like a lot of players struggle to let other people 'break the IC rules' without OOC
comment."
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Maeve comforts Capitalism.
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Trogdor claims, "Like, the only possible exception i can think of is something like the 'outsider
clans' like hillman or chaarli, and someone says they were raised in a hillman tribe exclusively,
but then acts more like a lithmorran in their character.. but thats just bad RP (imho) not really a
theme problem exactly"
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Maeve nods at trogdor.
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Karrin nods.
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Sparkles states, "I've been pondering this, because sometimes we get into talks about wanting more
conflict because conflict fuels interest, etc, and so I'm just bringing up a bit of a PSA that
sometimes one reason people (might) shy away from stuff is if/when they are getting that message."
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Maeve nods at Sparkles.
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Maeve claims, "From staff, I believe we are happy to request that players keep to IC channels to
respond to IC behavior as well."
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Temi waves.
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Temi sticks her fingers in her mouth and lets out a loud whistle which causes a rainbow to beam in
at her summon. She proceeds to skip away up the rainbow, which sparkles away behind her. [OOC]
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Maeve queries, "Anyone have anything further to add, questions or anything like that?"
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Maeve says, "One thing I would add - if someone habitually goes to OOC communication and uses OOC
leverage to try to force IC outcomes - that IS reportable to staff."
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Trogdor claims, "Is there a helpfile that explicitly states that theme is typically 'character
enforced IC' and not 'player ooc enforced'"
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Maeve nods at trogdor.
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Maeve says to Sparkles, "Thank you for bringing that topic up. I think it's the first time I've seen
it in OOC Chat, and I think it's quite salient to the game experience."
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Valora states, "Can I ask which that is... I know I could have used that in the past."
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Brando sarcastically states "i think it should be policy that all characters must break one in game
theme rule , per RL week ... to drive RP Muahahahahah" (note: sarcasm ok )
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ThatBard claims, "Hm. I don't know if this relates to it, but sometimes it can be frustrating when
people pick and choose what theme they want to stick to and what not. I played a Reeve in the past
and tried to enforce the medieval Law we got. And sometimes those in Theme actions just clash with
OOC notions and sensibilities and so sometimes the player base as a whole decides to just not adhere
to theme. And then you can only sit in th corner and make a sandwich. And well.. it makes you not
want to repeat your actions. Most famously. Hosting trials. rarely goes well for whoever host it.
It's just better to not open Law rp to the public."
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Trogdor states, "Hmmm.. it occurs to me that maybe part of the problem is that helpfiles don't have
a clear delimiter of what is enforceable by staff, and what is "rp suggestion" "
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Karrin claims, "Any time someone attempts to use OOC means to change what is happening IC, it is a
staff intervention type situation, as far as I understand (as a new staffer - so take with a grain
of salt). That could be by tell, by osay, by discord, or by trying to force helpfiles down your
throat to show you that you just aren't playing right."
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Trogdor says, "Thats a whole 'nother can of worms, IMHO -- but your point is 100 valid and I have
been tripped up in that as well"
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Maeve says, "Anything in the Policy section is enforceable by staff. Anything in any other help file
section is just thematic fodder to support RP. That said, they do cross over. Someone creating Darth
Vader would probably get called out by Staff for being out of theme. Someone wearing a golden tiara,
we'd leave for the Reeves to deal with (or not) as they see fit."
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Brando nods
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Maeve nods at Karrin.
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Maeve states, "I like Karrin's point too - it is a policy issue if people contact other people OOCly
to 'try to modify' someone else's behavior or actions."
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Maeve says, "So please don't contact people OOCly to complain about what they're doing ICly. Just
deal with it ICly and have a sandwich if you need one."
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Karrin states, "The only acceptable use of that, is to warn cyans. But that's not to force them to
change it, it's to let them know that what they are doing is ICly dangerous, and give them the
opportunity to change it if they want to."
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Brando states, "Note: making characters with puns as names is a policy issue ... for example
'Rockard ab Dominals' is not allowed."
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Eloxotzi is now idling.
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afk
InvestSouthside is no longer idle.
(AFK) mode removed.
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Valora claims, "Well there goes my next three character ideas."
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Maeve nods at Karrin.
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Trogdor states, "My buddy named his character in the DnD campaign Hung Lo Infick *facepalm*"
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Sparkles comforts trogdor.
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Maeve states, "I notoriously don't notice puns, etc, so please do report them."
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Maeve questions, "What else should we talk about?"
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Brando nods
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Trogdor says, "Thatbard i want to circle back to what you were saying earlier, fwiw, but not at this
ooc chat"
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Karrin says, "I will add this - if you think someone is doing something truly against theme that
might breach policy, the correct approach would be to inform staff, and staff can approach it,
whatever it might be. And/or staff can let you know that whatever it is, it is fine. But that way
you, as a player rather than a character, aren't put in the awkward situation of policing theme."
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Brando nods
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Trogdor claims, "My favorite pasttime is tattling to staff about things"
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Maeve states, "Yeah, we will let you know if the thing you've raised is something outside of our
purview. "
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Trogdor claims, "They have a boilerplate response they give me, 'no trogdor, eating in front of you
is not staff enforcable'"
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Sparkles states, "And maybe before doing so, putting it through the checklist is 'do I think this is
an actual problem or do I simply disagree with it as an IC choice'"
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Maeve nods at Sparkles.
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Brando nods
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ThatBard queries, "When do you want to talk about this, Trogdor?"
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Trogdor trails off, "Or bad RP... not everyone is great at it (and thats okay)"
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Maeve states, "Either way, if you need to say something OOC - best say it to Staff. Not to the other
player (considered attempting to OOCly manipulate someone) or other players (considered
blackballing)."
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Maeve claims, "Both of which are against policy."
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Maeve nods at trogdor.
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Maeve states, "Yeah, giving people OOC grace is an important thing."
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Brando nods vigorously
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Trogdor claims, "And also, some people are on the spectrum so it can be hard for them -- they see
the written word and think that that is LAW and not SUGGESTION"
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Maeve states, "That's a thing I noticed recently in a similar vein - please check people's whois to
see if someone is active before assuming they're not. Timezones are pretty notorious for making it
seem like someone's not around when they might well be."
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Maeve states, "I raise it because it came up in conversation."
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Maeve nods at trogdor.
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ThatBard claims, "I do agree that character should be able to make bad choices. I make plenty of bad
choices on my characters as well. I'm glad Starfish brought it up."
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Maeve says, "So if you think someone isn't active because you haven't seen them on the who list,
please reach out and attempt to schedule RP or mail them ICly."
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Maeve nods at ThatBard.
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Trogdor says, "I wanna see more people do contest rolls, i've offered and people seem to be
reluctant to use them"
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say lets go boss man!
InvestSouthside declaims, "Lets go boss man! "
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Maeve claims to trogdor, "That's pretty individual, yeah. I like contest rolls too, but I can see
why some people might not."
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Trogdor says, "Spoiler: if i'm offering to use a contest roll, it is most likely to your benefit to
accept, because it means I, the player, know that something is unfair to another player, but want to
give them a chance to squirm out of it via allowable ooc means such as rolls"
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Maeve nods at trogdor.
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Maeve claims, "Wow, this hour is flying by fast."
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Capitalism is idle.
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Valora states, "Simply solve all problems with a sword... then all problems are solved in a coded
manner. No need to worry about if they want to do contested rolls. If you win the Lord of Springs
favoured you and thus you're right/jk"
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Capitalism is no longer idle.
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Capitalism has returned from AFK.
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ThatBard states, "The dichotomy of playing a charisma character without irl charisma is almost as
bad as playing a high int/wis character and the light s are on but nobody is home up here. Rolls and
contest help a little with that. XD"
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Trogdor claims, "Also they can lead to some hilarious actions, like the time zarif choked the shit
out of andorig because he miraculously a strength contest roll "
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Maeve claims to Valora, "I am ready to subscribe to that philosophy. "
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Maeve nods at ThatBard.
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Capitalism trails off, "I may resemble that remark..."
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Capitalism cries.
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Maeve resembles a sword.
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Trogdor claims, "Valora does speek truth, call knight, tell them to jab pointy thing at annoyance,
problem solved"
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Capitalism uses Maeve to beat ThatBard... much better.
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Maeve breaks in Capitalism's hands.
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Maeve declaims, "Ow!"
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ThatBard says, "Same. I'm a monkey in disguise. English being my second language, is hard on me
sometimes too."
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Maeve muses, "What else should we talk about before I send everyone back to the Land of IC Stuff?"
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Maeve comforts ThatBard.
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Capitalism queries, "May I offer you some cookies in this trying time?"
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Maeve says, "Oh my, yes. There are cookies left."
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Maeve gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
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Meiari gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
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Maeve eats snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
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Meiari eats snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
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Valora gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
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Maeve states, "Yum. Temi makes the best cookies."
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Maeve says, "Thank you for attending OOC Chat this week Appreciate the conversation, and I hope
everyone has a fantastic week"
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get cookie
InvestSouthside gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
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ThatBard gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
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Capitalism claims, "I will be trying to setup for a Yule Fair... hopefully my work schedule will
allow me to attend."
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Brando says, "Cheers "
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Sparkles bows.
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Maeve says, "I'm going to put everyone back shortly. And enjoy the Yule Fair. "
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say wooo cookies
InvestSouthside claims, "Wooo cookies"
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inventory
InvestSouthside is carrying:
snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors
a set of bone china cups decorated with precious metal leaf
a rich dark oil painting finalized with clear matte varnish
a drawstring bag made of scratchy, wool yarn granny squares labeled as 'coffee and pigeons'
a small wooden practice dagger with a careful, even balance
( 2)a pair of plain copper earrings
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appraise cookie
InvestSouthside carefully considers snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
The following information is recorded about it:
Each cookie is roughly bite-sized, snowflake arms stretching a couple of
fingers across from side-to-side. They are all subtly different, a pattern
of geometric angles and lacy curls. The cookie base itself is brown and
thin, softly crispy, while a sweet layer of frosting colored in different
warm autumnal hues - browns and reds and yellows and oranges - coats the top
of each piece.
It seems to be priced at less than a gold.
This 'snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors' is a kind of food.
It has 3 bites remaining, which should be about 100% of the original batch.
It appears to be made of food.
It looks to be in excellent condition.
It weighs around 0 pounds.
It can be worn as follows: take
It could be easily held in one hand. (Actual size: 2)
It seems to be worth less than a gold.
It should provide 47 energy per bite.
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Valora exclaims, "Yay cookies!"
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Maeve has transferred trogdor. [OOC]
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Maeve states to trogdor, "Please grab a cookie "
Capitalism puts the following into a luxe leather satchel, embroidered with stylish sunflowers:
a wedge of natural tourmaline with a watermelon polychromia
a measure of powdery vanilla sugar in a ribboned sachet bag
several Vandagan crystal snowflakes sparkling prismatically
an assortment of geometric tiles carved from alabaster bone
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Capitalism ponders.
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Maeve has transferred ThatBard. [OOC]
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Trogdor exclaims, "BURNINATING THE VILLAGE! BURNINATING THE COUNTRY SIDE!"
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Maeve claims to ThatBard, "Please grab a cookie "
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ThatBard gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
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Karrin says to trogdor, "Don't forget the peasants."
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Maeve pats trogdor on the shoulder.
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Capitalism has lost link.
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Temi nods in agreement with Karrin.
Maeve finishes abruptly, "OOC Chat Agenda:
- Reminder to be kind
- Pick a Scribe
- Announcements
- Register Player Topics
- Staff Topics/Updates
- Player Topics
- Player Experiences"
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Trogdor says, "They were already burninated "
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Maeve queries, "Anyone want to be scribe?"
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say i can if no one else wants to
InvestSouthside states, "I can if no one else wants to"
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Maeve pontificates to InvestSouthside, "Thank you!"
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Capitalism has reconnected.
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Maeve has awarded you 2 QPs: Scribe
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Maeve states, "Please be kind during OOC Chat. This means be mindful of personal remarks, treat
others the way you'd want to be treated, and don't share OOC information that ought not to be shared
publicly. This space is for players to discuss the game with staff to make it better for everyone.
Please bring personal grievances or story concerns to me outside of OOC Chat."
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Maeve has transferred Brando. [OOC]
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Maeve has transferred Meiari. [OOC]
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Maeve says, "If you don't have a cookie, please feel free to grab one. "
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Brando gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
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Meiari gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
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Meiari lifts snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors to her nose and sniffs at
it.
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say what the government doesnt want you to know is the peasants are the free fire wood
InvestSouthside states, "What the government doesnt want you to know is the peasants are the free
fire wood"
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Maeve wonders, "I can't think of any announcements from my side. Anyone have anything? Any players
want to plug events or other fun things?"
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Capitalism eats a loaf of simple bread.
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Karrin claims, "Don't forget the offer for the QP to open up items of older coloring, instead of
using silver. That'll be up until the end of the month."
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Capitalism eats a steamy dish of saffron tinted, cashew-raisin biryani rice.
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Maeve smiles at Karrin.
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Capitalism ponders.
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Capitalism eats a week's worth of traveler's rations.
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Capitalism gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
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Trogdor wonders, "Anyway for those of us with less artistic talent to tell if something is 'older
coloring' vs 'newer coloring'?"
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Capitalism exclaims, "Cookie achieved!"
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say come and kidnap a local merchant to go through things with you?
InvestSouthside wonders, "Come and kidnap a local merchant to go through things with you?"
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Karrin says, "You could look at the tooling and see if it has the { colors, or if it has the <>
colors. But, really, I guess it could go to anything that wants to be opened for recoloring. No skin
off my teeth."
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Trogdor trails off, "Like, all i see are basically red, yellow, orange, brown, green, black, blue,
purple ... maybe gray"
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Maeve wonders to trogdor, "You just don't like it, maybe? (Older coloring is limited to the 16
colors at the top of help color, I think?)"
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Temi claims, "If you read help color, the old ones are only that. top set"
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Maeve wonders, "Have you turned xterm on?"
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Karrin says, "Make sure you have xterm turned on. I don't think it defaults as on."
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Trogdor declares, "It's on... my S.O critiques me all the time, "how can you not tell that is
periwinkle?!?!?!?!""
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Temi has transferred Sparkles. [OOC]
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Maeve chuckles.
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Karrin says, "It's the difference between using only those things in HELP COLOR versus using HELP
GRADIENT."
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Trogdor trails off, "Or ashgray... or mauve with hints of turquoise "
Meiari stares at Trogdor in color theory, "My good sir... you wound me."
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Maeve comforts trogdor.
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Temi states, "If the colors don't bother you, don't worry about getting the restring"
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Karrin states, "Or that."
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Trogdor says, "I'm more concerned about getting the things for the guild restringed"
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Maeve says, "Pretty sure you're using some of the xterm colors in your OOC name "
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Maeve nods at trogdor.
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Maeve states to trogdor, "You can submit requests for that too."
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Sparkles starts to move towards the south and west.
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Sparkles gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
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Karrin states, "If you'd like to just steal me sometime, I can go through and take a look. I'd
totally be open to prettying up the guild furniture, and the like."
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Maeve asks, "Anyone have any player topics they want to register to make sure we get to them today?"
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Trogdor says, "Done deal! I will hit you up out of ooc chat "
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Karrin claims, "Coolio. Just let me know, and we'll find a time."
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Trogdor claims, "Just don't expect me to offer coloring advice, cause i'll just say 'red and black,
as is proper for the Holy Order'"
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Karrin says, "If I open it, you can get some volunteer to come through and make it pretty. I'll
leave it open."
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Maeve says, "Guessing there are no topics, so moving on to Staff Updates. Last week, I ran a staff
meeting, wrote one or two little policy things, and was pretty unavailable due to IRL stuff like my
mom needing urgent medical and stuff (she is fine)."
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Maeve says, "This week, I'll ideally run another staff meeting, and maybe see if I can get Eurus to
tutor me a bit more for some more small code fixes as he has been teaching me."
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Maeve muses to Karrin, "Would you like to go next?"
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Karrin says, "Sure."
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Sparkles has lost link.
Sparkles has reconnected.
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Karrin states, "I have mostly been tottling around taking care of requests for housing purchases.
And little things, like dressing poor, naked Vandagan shopkeepers."
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Capitalism has lost link.
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Maeve smiles at Karrin.
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Maeve states to Temi, "Your turn "
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Valora wonders, "There was a... what?"
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say he was just prepping for the ice bucket challenge
InvestSouthside says, "He was just prepping for the ice bucket challenge"
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Temi says, "I am out of town this weekend, so not terribly productive. Some of the low level
requests and replying to questions. I should be back tomorrow "
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Maeve smiles.
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Brando laughs in lithmorran at naked vandagans
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Temi nods at Maeve.
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Maeve questions, "That's it for staff updates. What was the game like for people this week?"
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Brando says, "I did some mail, paid some tax and that was it so far for me."
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Valora states, "I'm having a good time. Met some new folks, learned a lot, been good."
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say It has been good
InvestSouthside states, "It has been good"
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Maeve claims, "That's good "
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Temi grins.
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Maeve states, "Okay, let's move onto Player Topics "
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Maeve queries to Sparkles, "You have something? "
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Sparkles claims, "So, given some chat earlier in the week and something that's been hinted at in
previous meetings, I've been pondering how exactly to bring up this topic for a bit. Because I know
sometimes open ended questions can feel pointed, however, I'd like to bring up a bit of a groupthink
about how there has been a growing tendency to conflate "a bad idea in character/controversial etc"
with "against theme"."
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Trogdor states, "Can you give an example? "
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Maeve questions, "Oh, that's an interesting topic. Can I check if 'a bad idea' and 'against theme'
is also meant to equate with 'against policy'?"
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Maeve declaims, "I personally, firmly believe there is nothing wrong with being a jerk, breaking the
law, etc. So 'it could get you into trouble ICly' != 'against policy'"
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Temi says, "This is also part of why staff has a policy of not commenting on rp"
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Sparkles claims, "I think sometimes, yes."
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Maeve nods at Temi.
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Maeve nods at Sparkles.
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Maeve states, "I agree with Trogdor, some examples - probably best if you make a few up rather than
use anything recent - would be helpful. I know a common one I see is people OOCly wanting to
enforce, for example, sumptuary."
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Karrin states, "It is perfectly within policy to be spoopy ICly and break IC laws/norms/etc."
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Trogdor claims, "For me, the 'keep theme' is mostly a character RP thing for enforcement.. eg:
reeves/order... the only outliers to that is if someone says they take out their AK-47 and starts
blasting or something. that's up to staff to figure out."
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Sparkles claims, "Things like courtesy or IC social rules, yes, is a good example. "
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Brando trails off, "Inviting somebody ... and then attacking them is AGAINST policy for example"
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Sparkles states, "Things where 'not doing these things might have negative consequences ICly'"
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Trogdor muses, "Eg, bowing and such?"
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Sparkles says, "That's one example, yes. In short, that sometimes rather than let things play out
negatively and thus led to conflict/controversy/negative stuff etc, folks can get more inclined to
point out helpfiles, infer about policy/rules, etc."
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Maeve nods.
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Karrin says, "I think that whether that slips OOC should depend on if the character is a cyan or
not."
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Brando nods
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Maeve nods at Karrin.
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Karrin states, "If they are cyan, then negative consequences should be warned about in an OOC manner
to make sure their actions intentionally are ones to create conflict. If they are not cyan, it
should roll IC and people shouldn't be slipping into OOC helpfiling about it."
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Temi says, "Yeah, but then let them continue once they understand if they want "
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Trogdor muses, "So my follow up question, assuming they are not cyan, do you mean people demanding
others bow to them, and then if they don't they reference a help file that says others should?"
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Maeve questions, "But beyond alerting a cyan person that something could have negative consequences
and allowing them to walk it back, Staff wouldn't enforce anything like this. I think people may
feel like they need help files or something to back them up when taking IC action lest they be
perceived poorly?"
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Karrin states, "Oh, absolutely."
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Temi nods in agreement.
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Brando nods
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Karrin claims to trogdor, "I think whether someone would demand a bow would depend on the
character."
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Trogdor claims, "Right -- i suppose i'm still trying to hone in on the issue"
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Karrin claims to trogdor, "My apologies. I re-read your request for clarification."
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Maeve questions, "I am guessing that the issue is that people cut off "out of theme" behavior OOCly
rather than address it ICly?"
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Maeve says to Sparkles, "Please correct me if I'm wrong."
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Sparkles claims, "Mostly, it is that the collective playerbase consciousness sees theme as both
'what should be standard Lithmorran belief/behavior on something' and 'what the rules say people
should be doing' things too easily slip from the implication something that is not the first is also
not the second."
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Maeve nods at Sparkles.
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Temi nods.
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Trogdor trails off, "Well... imho, people should rarely slip to ooc stuff for something like that"
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Maeve agrees with trogdor.
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Temi nods in agreement.
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Temi states, "That would be official staff policy"
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Capitalism has reconnected.
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Capitalism exclaims, "Internet!"
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Capitalism mutters under his breath.
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Maeve states, "Shouldn't and don't have a bit of space between them though. I've seen this happen a
lot. In fact, we had a policy case some 3-4 weeks ago where a player didn't like the way another
player was doing things based on their perception of theme. They reported it, we replied that
nothing in there was against policy. But day to day, this has to do with how players interact, and
it sounds like a lot of players struggle to let other people 'break the IC rules' without OOC
comment."
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Maeve comforts Capitalism.
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Trogdor claims, "Like, the only possible exception i can think of is something like the 'outsider
clans' like hillman or chaarli, and someone says they were raised in a hillman tribe exclusively,
but then acts more like a lithmorran in their character.. but thats just bad RP (imho) not really a
theme problem exactly"
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Maeve nods at trogdor.
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Karrin nods.
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Sparkles states, "I've been pondering this, because sometimes we get into talks about wanting more
conflict because conflict fuels interest, etc, and so I'm just bringing up a bit of a PSA that
sometimes one reason people (might) shy away from stuff is if/when they are getting that message."
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Maeve nods at Sparkles.
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Maeve claims, "From staff, I believe we are happy to request that players keep to IC channels to
respond to IC behavior as well."
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Temi waves.
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Temi sticks her fingers in her mouth and lets out a loud whistle which causes a rainbow to beam in
at her summon. She proceeds to skip away up the rainbow, which sparkles away behind her. [OOC]
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Maeve queries, "Anyone have anything further to add, questions or anything like that?"
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Maeve says, "One thing I would add - if someone habitually goes to OOC communication and uses OOC
leverage to try to force IC outcomes - that IS reportable to staff."
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Trogdor claims, "Is there a helpfile that explicitly states that theme is typically 'character
enforced IC' and not 'player ooc enforced'"
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Maeve nods at trogdor.
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Maeve says to Sparkles, "Thank you for bringing that topic up. I think it's the first time I've seen
it in OOC Chat, and I think it's quite salient to the game experience."
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Valora states, "Can I ask which that is... I know I could have used that in the past."
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Brando sarcastically states "i think it should be policy that all characters must break one in game
theme rule , per RL week ... to drive RP Muahahahahah" (note: sarcasm ok )
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ThatBard claims, "Hm. I don't know if this relates to it, but sometimes it can be frustrating when
people pick and choose what theme they want to stick to and what not. I played a Reeve in the past
and tried to enforce the medieval Law we got. And sometimes those in Theme actions just clash with
OOC notions and sensibilities and so sometimes the player base as a whole decides to just not adhere
to theme. And then you can only sit in th corner and make a sandwich. And well.. it makes you not
want to repeat your actions. Most famously. Hosting trials. rarely goes well for whoever host it.
It's just better to not open Law rp to the public."
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Trogdor states, "Hmmm.. it occurs to me that maybe part of the problem is that helpfiles don't have
a clear delimiter of what is enforceable by staff, and what is "rp suggestion" "
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Karrin claims, "Any time someone attempts to use OOC means to change what is happening IC, it is a
staff intervention type situation, as far as I understand (as a new staffer - so take with a grain
of salt). That could be by tell, by osay, by discord, or by trying to force helpfiles down your
throat to show you that you just aren't playing right."
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Trogdor says, "Thats a whole 'nother can of worms, IMHO -- but your point is 100 valid and I have
been tripped up in that as well"
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Maeve says, "Anything in the Policy section is enforceable by staff. Anything in any other help file
section is just thematic fodder to support RP. That said, they do cross over. Someone creating Darth
Vader would probably get called out by Staff for being out of theme. Someone wearing a golden tiara,
we'd leave for the Reeves to deal with (or not) as they see fit."
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Brando nods
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Maeve nods at Karrin.
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Maeve states, "I like Karrin's point too - it is a policy issue if people contact other people OOCly
to 'try to modify' someone else's behavior or actions."
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Maeve says, "So please don't contact people OOCly to complain about what they're doing ICly. Just
deal with it ICly and have a sandwich if you need one."
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Karrin states, "The only acceptable use of that, is to warn cyans. But that's not to force them to
change it, it's to let them know that what they are doing is ICly dangerous, and give them the
opportunity to change it if they want to."
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Brando states, "Note: making characters with puns as names is a policy issue ... for example
'Rockard ab Dominals' is not allowed."
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Eloxotzi is now idling.
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afk
InvestSouthside is no longer idle.
(AFK) mode removed.
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Valora claims, "Well there goes my next three character ideas."
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Maeve nods at Karrin.
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Trogdor states, "My buddy named his character in the DnD campaign Hung Lo Infick *facepalm*"
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Sparkles comforts trogdor.
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Maeve states, "I notoriously don't notice puns, etc, so please do report them."
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Maeve questions, "What else should we talk about?"
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Brando nods
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Trogdor says, "Thatbard i want to circle back to what you were saying earlier, fwiw, but not at this
ooc chat"
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Karrin says, "I will add this - if you think someone is doing something truly against theme that
might breach policy, the correct approach would be to inform staff, and staff can approach it,
whatever it might be. And/or staff can let you know that whatever it is, it is fine. But that way
you, as a player rather than a character, aren't put in the awkward situation of policing theme."
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Brando nods
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Trogdor claims, "My favorite pasttime is tattling to staff about things"
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Maeve states, "Yeah, we will let you know if the thing you've raised is something outside of our
purview. "
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Trogdor claims, "They have a boilerplate response they give me, 'no trogdor, eating in front of you
is not staff enforcable'"
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Sparkles states, "And maybe before doing so, putting it through the checklist is 'do I think this is
an actual problem or do I simply disagree with it as an IC choice'"
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Maeve nods at Sparkles.
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Brando nods
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ThatBard queries, "When do you want to talk about this, Trogdor?"
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Trogdor trails off, "Or bad RP... not everyone is great at it (and thats okay)"
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Maeve states, "Either way, if you need to say something OOC - best say it to Staff. Not to the other
player (considered attempting to OOCly manipulate someone) or other players (considered
blackballing)."
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Maeve claims, "Both of which are against policy."
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Maeve nods at trogdor.
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Maeve states, "Yeah, giving people OOC grace is an important thing."
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Brando nods vigorously
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Trogdor claims, "And also, some people are on the spectrum so it can be hard for them -- they see
the written word and think that that is LAW and not SUGGESTION"
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Maeve states, "That's a thing I noticed recently in a similar vein - please check people's whois to
see if someone is active before assuming they're not. Timezones are pretty notorious for making it
seem like someone's not around when they might well be."
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Maeve states, "I raise it because it came up in conversation."
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Maeve nods at trogdor.
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ThatBard claims, "I do agree that character should be able to make bad choices. I make plenty of bad
choices on my characters as well. I'm glad Starfish brought it up."
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Maeve says, "So if you think someone isn't active because you haven't seen them on the who list,
please reach out and attempt to schedule RP or mail them ICly."
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Maeve nods at ThatBard.
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Trogdor says, "I wanna see more people do contest rolls, i've offered and people seem to be
reluctant to use them"
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say lets go boss man!
InvestSouthside declaims, "Lets go boss man! "
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Maeve claims to trogdor, "That's pretty individual, yeah. I like contest rolls too, but I can see
why some people might not."
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Trogdor says, "Spoiler: if i'm offering to use a contest roll, it is most likely to your benefit to
accept, because it means I, the player, know that something is unfair to another player, but want to
give them a chance to squirm out of it via allowable ooc means such as rolls"
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Maeve nods at trogdor.
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Maeve claims, "Wow, this hour is flying by fast."
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Capitalism is idle.
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Valora states, "Simply solve all problems with a sword... then all problems are solved in a coded
manner. No need to worry about if they want to do contested rolls. If you win the Lord of Springs
favoured you and thus you're right/jk"
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Capitalism is no longer idle.
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Capitalism has returned from AFK.
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ThatBard states, "The dichotomy of playing a charisma character without irl charisma is almost as
bad as playing a high int/wis character and the light s are on but nobody is home up here. Rolls and
contest help a little with that. XD"
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Trogdor claims, "Also they can lead to some hilarious actions, like the time zarif choked the shit
out of andorig because he miraculously a strength contest roll "
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Maeve claims to Valora, "I am ready to subscribe to that philosophy. "
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Maeve nods at ThatBard.
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Capitalism trails off, "I may resemble that remark..."
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Capitalism cries.
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Maeve resembles a sword.
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Trogdor claims, "Valora does speek truth, call knight, tell them to jab pointy thing at annoyance,
problem solved"
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Capitalism uses Maeve to beat ThatBard... much better.
[RPXP Gain: none] [HP:perfect MV:fresh P:walk] (bathed)
Maeve breaks in Capitalism's hands.
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Maeve declaims, "Ow!"
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ThatBard says, "Same. I'm a monkey in disguise. English being my second language, is hard on me
sometimes too."
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Maeve muses, "What else should we talk about before I send everyone back to the Land of IC Stuff?"
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Maeve comforts ThatBard.
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Capitalism queries, "May I offer you some cookies in this trying time?"
[RPXP Gain: none] [HP:perfect MV:fresh P:walk] (bathed)
Maeve says, "Oh my, yes. There are cookies left."
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Maeve gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
[RPXP Gain: none] [HP:perfect MV:fresh P:walk] (bathed)
Meiari gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
[RPXP Gain: none] [HP:perfect MV:fresh P:walk] (bathed)
Maeve eats snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
[RPXP Gain: none] [HP:perfect MV:fresh P:walk] (bathed)
Meiari eats snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
[RPXP Gain: none] [HP:perfect MV:fresh P:walk] (bathed)
Valora gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
[RPXP Gain: none] [HP:perfect MV:fresh P:walk] (bathed)
Maeve states, "Yum. Temi makes the best cookies."
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Maeve says, "Thank you for attending OOC Chat this week Appreciate the conversation, and I hope
everyone has a fantastic week"
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get cookie
InvestSouthside gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
[RPXP Gain: none] [HP:perfect MV:fresh P:walk] (bathed)
ThatBard gets snowflake-shaped cookies frosted with warm, autumnal colors.
[RPXP Gain: none] [HP:perfect MV:fresh P:walk] (bathed)
Capitalism claims, "I will be trying to setup for a Yule Fair... hopefully my work schedule will
allow me to attend."
[RPXP Gain: none] [HP:perfect MV:fresh P:walk] (bathed)
Brando says, "Cheers "
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Sparkles bows.
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Maeve says, "I'm going to put everyone back shortly. And enjoy the Yule Fair. "
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