Log of Ooc/staff meeting 9/14/2013
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:36 pm
Notable piece of info- The gift for attending the meeting was 100 silver this time.
And now for the actual log of the meeting
Kinaed says, "Okay, today's agenda, folks, is:
- Staff Updates
- Staff Topics
- Player Heartbeat
- Player Topics"
Kinaed says, "Alright, if the desire to add to the agenda changes, let me know. Staff Updates are first, I'll kick off."
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Lloyd wanders into the vicinity. [login]
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Seymor makes a note "Will edit out the lag part of log when it comes time."
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Arynon wanders into the vicinity. [login]
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Azarial scuffs her foot sheepishly.
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Kinaed says, "Last week I didn't do very much. I started to put together a specification for Places code, but it's not finished."
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Arynon grumbles about his connection.
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Seymor queries, "Places code?"
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Kinaed says, "What it will look like is both the ability to join with objects in a room to have private conversations, as well as to make an object on the fly."
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Azarial states to Arynon, "We crashed."
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Kinaed nods at Seymor.
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Arynon queries of someone, "Wasn't me?"
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Seymor claims, "Hmm.. that sounds interesting"
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A Comfortable Room
[Chilly]
A plethora of gaily coloured silk pillows with fringes and tassels
completely conceal the floor. A large pillow in the corner stands out, a
brooding black mass of velvet and fringeless. Screens of nature scenes
painted with the spare strokes of a brush that hint at and outline the
subjects, leaving much to the imagination. Behind the screens, silk
curtains and sheets painted with bright patterns hide the walls, pulled
back only around the windows that pierce the southern and western walls to
look out over a lush garden filled with an untamed riot of plants and
trees.
[ Exits: -down- ]
Arynon is here. [App: 5]
Lloyd is here. [App: 4]
Takta is here. [App: 4]
You hear a strange humming coming from him.
Gaberiel is here. [App: 3]
A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes is resting here. [App: 3]
Beronica is sitting in her rocking chair. [App: 3]
Kinaed is here. [App: 5]
Beth is here. [App: 3]
Gavin is here. [App: 3]
A tiny, flimsy woman has sunk down and nearly disappeared in a comfortable pillow. [App: 4]
Safir is here. [App: 5]
Rain is here. [App: 3]
Temi is here. [App: 5]
Azarial is here. [App: 5]
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Aios has been transferred in by Kinaed. [OOC]
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Kinaed gives Aios some coins.
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Argider wanders into the vicinity. [login]
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Azarial says, "Nope. we all were booted."
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Morgen wanders into the vicinity. [login]
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Arynon claims to Azarial, "Ah"
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Kinaed says, "Okay, so that didn't get done by today, which was my aim, but it's getting done."
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Kinaed says, "Next week, I intend to complete the places code spec so players can have a last look to vette it before passing it to Az for implementation."
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Kinaed queries, "That's it for me. Takta?"
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Kinaed wonders, "Takta isn't in the room. Temi? :)"
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Temi exclaims, "Okay!"
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Temi claims, "So, I've been working more on herbalism."
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Arynon wipes some drool away at the mention of herbalism.
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[OOC] Jiraiya: "Yay its back"
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A person wearing a silk-lined, khaki velvet cloak trimmed with soft grey fur has been transferred in by Kinaed. [OOC]
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Takta trails off, "I'm here..."
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Kinaed gives a person wearing a silk-lined, khaki velvet cloak trimmed with soft grey fur some coins.
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Temi states, "All of the concoctions, excepting the flower stuff, now has little herb blurbs, ie explanations of the lore and affects in the recipes."
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Kinaed is just blind, sorry!
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Takta grins.
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A person wearing a silk-lined, khaki velvet cloak trimmed with soft grey fur claims, "Mmm silver"
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Temi claims, "And I've also added necessary tools to all of those, and just today, success and failure messages."
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OOC channel is now OFF.
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Temi says, "Next step is the recipe procedure messages, and that'll take a bit longer, but it's coming along well."
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Kinaed asks of Temi, "What's left to do?"
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Kinaed nods.
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Seymor says, "Well i bet beronica is happy to hear this"
Temi says, "I've got basic objects made for all of the plants and concoctions, but they will need the new herbal details once Az adds those in."
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Beronica rocks her chair excitedly as she bounces in her seat.
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Temi states, "And that's been enough to keep me busy. Back to you, Kin."
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Seymor smirks to Beronica
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Kinaed smiles.
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Kinaed declares to Takta, "Sorry about that earlier. Blind. You're up!"
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Takta grins.
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Takta states, "No prob! Okay."
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Takta says, "So at some point over last week, I finished the basic sewer system. Now, I still need to finish adding secrets, interesting offshoot areas, etc."
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Takta says, "I am setting a tentative release date of the 28th, two weeks from now, which is also when I'll be holding the Sept. quest."
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Aios cheers for Takta.
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Kinaed trails off, "Wow, that's a lot to do, and grad school too..."
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Takta says, "Still very happy to take suggestions for room ideas, lore, mobs, etc. that folks would like to see in the sewers."
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A tiny, flimsy woman me holds her nose since Takta clearly just came back from the sewer building.
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Takta trails off to Kinaed, "Yeah..."
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Takta states to a tiny, flimsy woman, "Oh yeah, I'm perpetually dirty all the time. "
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Gaberiel starts writing a huge ideas list for Takta.
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Kinaed claims to Gaberiel, "We'd love to get that off you :)"
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Seymor looks at his nails "Still thinks there needs to be a cat worshipping room just for the hell of it."
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Takta claims, "I believe my next big project after the sewers is to convert woodworking to new crafting, so stay tuned."
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Gaberiel states, ":D "
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Takta exclaims, "I think that's it! (Submit ideas to me via the Request board - not Personal board, they disappear too quick!)"
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Kinaed smiles.
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Kinaed claims, "Azarial, you're up."
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Beronica has lost link.
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Azarial says, "First, thank you all very, veyr much. I am always surprised at the community we have developed here, and never in a bad way."
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Gaberiel questions to Takta, "Full descs and ideas, just ideas, or both?"
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Aios hugs Azarial.
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Beronica has reconnected.
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Kinaed stage whispers to Azarial, "I've got the donations stuff scheduled during the Staff Topics."
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Azarial states, "My time, i'll spend it how I like."
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Azarial grins.
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Takta states to Gaberiel, "Full descs are okay - I'll take it all."
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Takta grins at Azarial.
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Kinaed wonders, "Okay, well... in that case, can I merge it?"
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Gaberiel snickers at Takta.
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Azarial claims, "I have resolved a major sticking point for how temi wanted to do a more fluid poison approach, of which some fo the bugs and the crash today was part of."
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A tiny, flimsy woman me chuckles.
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Azarial says, "I will continue working on that tonight."
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Kinaed smiles at Azarial.
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Azarial claims, "Cnotes and gnotes have been updated, sharing some features. the account handler command for the staff has been updated with a few more tools; more will be added as any new account issues crop up."
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Azarial says, "Several funcitons and threads have been converted to third person, assorted other major and minor typos fixed in the code."
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Kinaed nods at Azarial.
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Azarial states, "Still trying to work on magic, but that takes more time and concentration I can apply at any given time; RL is keeping me stressed and busy."
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Azarial has awarded you 1 QP: crash
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Azarial claims, "If there is anythign else I hvae accomplished, I cannot bring it to mind."
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Kinaed smiles.
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Kinaed states, "Okay, guys. Staff Topics."
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Seymor says, "Yeah.. magic is complicated on a user level i could not imagine it on a coding level"
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Azarial nods at Seymor.
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Kinaed claims, "As you know, Azarial, his wife and his young son are without a place to live as of Monday."
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Azarial states, "Seymor especially as most of it i hvae to rewrite partially to completely for the newer system ideas."
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Kinaed claims, "We've raised a donation drive to assist him in applying for rental apartments and making his first deposit on a new place."
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Azarial is apartment hunting like a factory fur production behind schedule.
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Kinaed says, "Thanks to your help, we've raised $680."
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Takta cheeeers D
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Takta declaims, "Er. :D!"
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Kinaed states, "I'm going to send this money to Azarial today, and hopefully it will help him find a roof and facilitate his wife in keeping her job, which must be so much harder in these circumstances."
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Arynon exclaims, "Nice job!"
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Kinaed says, "So thank you, everyone, from the bottom of our hearts. Those of you who donated, you know who you are. I've had a few people ask me to keep it on the Down Low, so I am."
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Lloyd claims, "I'm sorry about your situation, Azarial. Best to you."
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Kinaed states, "But we're so grateful."
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Azarial states, "It is. call center for the xbox konnect thingie and the online stuff."
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Azarial claims, "Thank you"
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Kinaed asks, "Anyone want to say anything else on this topic?"
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Azarial claims, "I am beggared of words."
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Kinaed hugs Azarial.
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Azarial bows deeply.
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Kinaed states to Azarial, "We all acknowledge your dedication and what you've done for us for the past several years in building this game, Az."
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Azarial states, "Coming up on nine years, I think"
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Temi claims, "Just that it's great to see everyone realising what a great person we've got in Az, and the community really coming together for him. You can't buy great programmers like this."
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Kinaed nods at Temi.
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Takta states, "Yeah, $680 is probably like, fair payment for a few days of your work. *grin*"
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves has been transferred in by Kinaed. [OOC]
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Kinaed gives a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves some coins.
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Kinaed muses, "Okay, next topic?"
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Azarial states, "I've never figured out how to realistically price the time I put in here compared to 'normal' programming jobs. it...seemed like it demeaned the work somehow."
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Kinaed claims to Azarial, "I couldn't afford to pay you programmer rates."
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Kinaed ponders.
Kinaed claims, "The next topic is a bit sensitive."
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Seymor arches his brow as he considers what this could mean
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Kinaed says, "I've had some talks with RPers who have come to TI from other RP games (specifically MUSH backgrounds) and found RP on TI not their cup of tea. I asked them a few questions around why they left, and it has to do with inconsistent RP etiquette."
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Kinaed states, "But I think it's inappropriate for me to throw up a help file on RP etiquette and expect people to follow it."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves asks, "I come from MUSH environments, and I have no problem with RP Etiquette. Can you be more specific, Kinaed?"
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Kinaed says, "I thought maybe we should come up with an agreement about what we consider being polite during RP to one another, which I'd put in a help file."
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Seymor questions, "Was it so much a matter of rudeness as in word wise or the way rp happened?"
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Kinaed claims, "Specifically, things like setting the scene for people when they come into a room, walking out of a room without emoting (when not travelling) or acknowledging other people, turns, stuff like that. "
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Takta claims, "Hrm. Problem being we all come from such different traditions... what some folks consider necessary others just do not care about or even care for. For me, there aren't any hard and fast rules except for no passive-aggressive posing and just properly 'responding' to others."
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Kinaed claims, "I think it's more about our genre of games tends to have a game-by-game set of expectations."
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Kinaed says, "TI doesn't really have any established rules other than we don't turn unless asked to, but if we're asked to, we turn."
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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes states, "My experience is that we usually kind of naturally follow that rule, anyways, for the most part"
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Takta says, "I think it should be fine to move on through a room without emoting if there's an OOC check/comment. 'Hey, just moving through, sorry'."
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Kinaed nods at a young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes.
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves states, "Yeah, I do not understand those remarks, Kinaed. I mean, I understand what you are saying, I just do not understand the logic or that statement as a motive to leave the game."
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Kinaed says, "It has been for at least one new player whom I spoke with."
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Temi claims, "Not that anyone is actually being rude."
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Temi claims, "Just that people don't know what to expect for ettiquette."
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Kinaed says, "I don't think anyone is trying to be rude, but I think their perception is that it was a rude experience."
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Kinaed nods at Temi.
Takta queries, "Did that person cite a specific piece of etiquette?"
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A tiny, flimsy woman muses, "Since this comes from some leaving the game over it, what more specifically was the RP-styles they had issues with?"
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Temi states, "So we're trying to write down what we do live by."
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Kinaed nods at Temi.
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Kinaed says, "For them, it was not having the scene set and "being acknowledged before they'd had a time to take in what was happening so they could form a pose""
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Seymor nods "I will be honest that given this is my first mud and never played a game like this before that i am kinda of oblivious to other types of rp on different game. And i agree with takta.. if your passing through say something oocly for people don't prepare a pose then have it wasted when you leave suddenly
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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes trails off, "So, in all seriousness, they got pissed about being spoken to...to quickly"
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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes says, "Rofl"
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Seymor asks, "Wait.. a scene set? really?"
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Kinaed claims, "Ie, if someone walks into a room, having other people react to their presence before they could figure out what was going on. I got the impression they're used to OOCly walking into a room, then slotting in."
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Takta says, "Gonna be blunt: I think this is that person's individual problem for expecting a MUD to follow MUSH rules."
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Kinaed states, "Remember, we're talking about different game cultures here."
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Seymor says, "Yeah i agree with takta here.. "
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Azarial states, "That sounds like it would mix ic and ooc too much for how we prefer to operate"
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Aios claims, "Yeah, I always thought you were supposed to scene set specifically so people DO know what's going on when they come in."
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Kinaed queries, "It might, but wouldn't it be good to have a help file about what we expect so we tell new people what to expect when they come on board?"
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Takta states, "I DO like scene-setting as an approach, but it almost requires turns."
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Delilah appears in swirl of fog, thunder sounding throughout the area lightning streaking through the clouds. [OOC]
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Kinaed says, "This isnt' about who is right or wrong, it's about retaining players who want to RP."
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Delilah is always sooo late.
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Safir has reconnected.
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Arynon claims, "Usually with those i've rp'd with, if someone walks into a room, EVERYONE sets actions to the current scene, I don't know how much more they want the scene set"
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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes claims, "Can't tell you how many times i've had people immediately do actions so i knew what was going on"
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Aios nods at Kinaed.
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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes nods at Arynon.
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Seymor nods in agreement with arynon
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Takta muses, "So we could have a rule that maybe you should set actions whenever somebody walks in, but that your codewise arrival = your IC arrival?"
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Kinaed muses, "Is that something we can write down though? If someone enters a room, update your action?"
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Kinaed nods at Takta.
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Takta asks, "So people can acknowledge you as soon as you enter, not only after you've posed?"
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Beronica states, "Moods help with scene setting as well. Plus I look to see if a person is continuing through and if I need to RP with them, I send a tell."
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Takta says, "(Truth be told MUSHes do that WAY better, but.)"
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Kinaed says, "And it doesn't have to be followed 100%, just something to give people an idea of how we prefer to RP here."
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Temi claims, "Update your action or give an explanatory emote with what's going on."
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Safir claims, "In high-traffic rooms that can be awfully repetative."
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Temi says, "If your action is already fine, I think it's fine to not do anything else."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves claims, "Honestly, I would probably cut down RPing by a LOT if I had to update my action/mood every time someone enters a room."
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Kinaed nods at Temi.
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Takta claims, "I think we can say something like 'set your action if you're doing something particular someone ought to note'."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "Now, I come from a MUSH environment, and I understand what they want, and why they want it. But I have never experienced TI as a MUSH."
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Kinaed nods at Takta.
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Azarial muses, "Maybe have them ask oocly if they need a sceneset?"
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Kinaed nods at a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves.
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A tiny, flimsy woman states, "I tend to update my action almost after every emote sometimes. It seems to be quite individual."
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Arynon says, "Yeah sometimes there's ic reasons why we don't do anything with a person, there are times i've had to icly ignore people due to talking to someone on a situation (usually knights or court business) that held priority for my character icly"
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Safir states, "I set my action immediately going into a scene and update periodically, and try to do room poses when people come in, but if I have to auto-update the action EVERY time someone enters church square, I'll spend more time doing that than posing. "
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Kinaed claims, "I can say honestly that I think MUSH and MUD RP looks for different things."
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Kinaed claims, "And I'm not saying we should be a MUSH or change who we are."
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Takta nods at Kinaed.
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "TI is a dynamic environment that changes, a MUSH is a static environment. A stage, with a deliberate and precise performance. When you walk in, you have to know which part of the performance you are viewing. TI I found far more freeform."
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Kinaed says, "But I think we SHOULD set the expectation for newbies about how we operate, otherwise we may come off poorly, even though our ways are just fine, because of what other people are used to."
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Temi claims, "I always try to acknowledge people when they arrive, but often time it's just in an emote that I'm already doing that I don't sem to notice them yet."
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Kinaed says, "I don't think we need to acknowledge people, honestly."
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Takta claims, "It's always bugged me that I tend to get acknowledged before I can pose, but that's TI."
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Azarial muses to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "Are most mushes like that?"
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Rain claims, "It seems to me that we already have relatively well-established guidelines. I can get behind having them located all in one place."
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Takta states, "I mean, that's MUDs, rather than MUSHes."
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Kinaed claims, "If their arrival is IC, then their entrance is an event."
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A tiny, flimsy woman asks, "Maybe a "TI for MUSH:ers" , "TI for MUD:ers" etc?"
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Safir queries, "How are we supposed to know what every single new person is used to? I mean, I see a cyan, I immediately try to involve them in RP, to help them out. But we're not supposed to do that?"
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Aios says, "People have also been complaining about not being acknowledged, in recent times... so it's sort of different strokes."
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Safir has lost link.
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Kinaed claims, "We don't, but we can set out a help file to say how we do things and add to it to faciltiate the cultural merge of new players."
Rain says, "I'm with Takta on that point, I like to watch a little to know what I'm walking into, and to prepare anything that I think those already there should know about me."
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Azarial queries, "Maybe talk to them to see what their experience is, oocly, and then go from there on their first scene?"
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Rain states, "To cut down on the cheerful greetings when I'm bleeding profusely from a hole in my head or what have you."
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Kinaed nods at Azarial.
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Takta asks, "I think it's fine to just point folks to the helpfile if they're like 'wait, HOW do we do it here?'"
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Kinaed nods at Rain.
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Takta states to Rain, "Seriously."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves claims, "You know, whois exists as a command."
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Gavin says, "That'll annoy the folks that don't want to be communicated with OOCly. ;) Still-- you can't please everyone."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves states, "And I know for a fact there is a RP Prefs there."
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Delilah grins at Rain.
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Kinaed says, "I'd like to put in a Help RP Etiquette and put it in the new player zone."
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Takta asks, "Can we mention that it's WAY EASIER to involve you if you involve yourself?"
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Kinaed says, "It will specifically state something like 'This is how we do things here, there's no right or wrong way, but this is our way' or something"
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Kinaed nods at Takta.
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Takta claims, "I.e., don't go brood silently in a tavern corner and expect established players to do all the work."
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Gaberiel says to Kinaed, "Guidelines, not rules ;)"
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Safir has lost link.
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Azarial says, "Those reeve barfights might involve that type, but those are not that common."
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Kinaed nods at Gaberiel.
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Safir has reconnected.
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A tiny, flimsy woman states, "There are some texts on this in the forum already."
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Kinaed claims, "I'm cool to rename it RP Etiquette guidelines."
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Kinaed nods at a tiny, flimsy woman.
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "I always have and always will involve players in a scene; But if I'm passing through, I don't expect anyone to emote for me, or say anything OOCly, is my point."
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Takta claims, "Walking on through, posing in turns, and passive-aggressive poses seem to be the major things I can think about."
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Kinaed claims to a tiny, flimsy woman, "Probably not very directed around how TI does stuff. We have a few things about twinking and turns, but not much else."
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Gaberiel says, "Maybe post a few logs of certain instantances that differ from Muds, like when people walk in. "
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Kinaed asks of Takta, "What is a passive-aggressive pose?"
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Temi muses, "Can also mention that thinks should go in think instead of emotes themselves?"
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Takta states, "'Takta looks askance at Kinaed for her stupid question.'"
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A tiny, flimsy woman claims, "I was wondering about that too."
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Kinaed says, "I'd put in stuff about using the think command instead of including thoughts in a pose."
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Takta states, "Or, etc."
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Takta states, "When the text of the pose clearly is mocking or insulting the other character."
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Takta declares to Kinaed, "Er, not that it was a stupid question!"
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Takta claims, "That was just the most obvious example in context."
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Kinaed claims, "Keep 'em coming, I'm taking notes."
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Takta says, "Present tense, not past tense."
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Seymor laughs at Takta's sudden correction "Quick takta back away slowly."
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Takta claims, "Past tense emotes weird me out, man."
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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes claims, "Lol i agree with Takta"
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "I just find this entire issue funny. The only hard and fast rule in MUSHes is not 'power posing'."
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A tiny, flimsy woman is being non-passive-aggressive by noting what a brilliant description Takta just did of passive-aggressive posing.
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Takta laaaaughs.
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Arynon was sitting over there.
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Gaberiel jumped on Takta and glomped her. Sagenod.
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Takta says to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "Well, depends an awful lot on the game."
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Somewhere, a dog barked. [Rain]
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves claims, "I guess."
Azarial asks, "Power posing?"
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Takta claims to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "The MUSHes I played had a lot more set-in-stone etiquette than TI."
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Azarial is completely clueless.
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Gaberiel claims, "I honestly avoid people who power pose >_> "
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Takta slaps Azarial so hard he's knocked to the ground! POWER POSED.
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Temi queries, "Are we noting already that travelling through without stopping isn't really considered rude?"
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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes queries, "What is power posing?"
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Azarial states, "Ahh, closed emotes."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves states, "Doing something without another player's permission, or acting for them"
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Rain nods at Azarial.
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Kinaed states, "Added no closed emoted."
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A tiny, flimsy woman questions, "Power pose sounds like godmodding?"
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Azarial says, "I rmember that form old TI."
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Takta claims, "Oh yeah, I forgot it's called closed emotes here."
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Lloyd is idle.
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Azarial found soe logs from back when cats were pets, and would camp a bar, 'doze', and let the cat roam while trying to figure out wtf.
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Gaberiel says, "I always add in something like 'kisses Kinaed, if she allows, or doesn't relatiate to the act.' "
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Arynon exclaims, "Hey we have a file on no closed emotes, i read it once! *really does read from time to time*"
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Kinaed claims, "I'm going to put in that we don't have a hard and fast turn taking rule, but we do loosely take turns, so give people a chance to respond, esp in high tense situations"
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says to Gaberiel, "We need to RP more."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves is kidding.
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Takta says to Kinaed, "That makes sense to me."
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Temi nods at Kinaed.
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Kinaed nods at Arynon.
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Gaberiel growls and claws at a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves. "Me-ow!" D
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Lloyd is no longer idle.
Lloyd has returned from AFK.
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Kinaed claims, "I think we need to take a lot of these disparate etiquette stuff already in help files and consolidate it, then throw it in newbie."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves snickers.
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Kinaed asks, "Anything else people want to add about how we do stuff?"
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Takta states, "Bullet lists/short descriptions with links to longer helpfiles is always really handy."
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Rain nods in agreement with Takta.
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Kinaed nods at Takta.
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves states, "I was PR staff on a few MUSHes, I know most of the etiquette and stuff that happens there. So if you need help, I'd be glad to lend a hand."
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Kinaed states, "We'll do that."
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Arynon queries to Kinaed, "Can we add a 'How awesome is TI?" section? :D"
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Azarial claims, "Oh, right. guildleaders can sponsor at a cost of 5ip."
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Azarial forgot that.
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Kinaed states to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "I'd love a list of what you'd put in an etiquette help file there, then I'll talk about each point with TI people, decide if we do that or if we think we ought to do that, then come up with something."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves muses, "... wait, we can do that?"
Aios muses to Azarial, "What's the process on that? Coded or ask an imm?"
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Azarial says, "Coded."
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Takta states to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "It's new."
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Gaberiel exclaims, "Vodka + Seirra Mist Cran = warm face and a giggling Gaybeeee!"
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "I thin-- oh."
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Kinaed claims, "I'll put the help file up on the forums before installing it here, because I think something like this needs buy in from people. It's OUR culture we're establishing."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves claims, "Cause I may have abused a bug otherwise."
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Temi claims, "That was an additional code update from Az this week."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves starts writing a note. (This is an OOC action)
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Takta nods at Kinaed.
And now for the actual log of the meeting
Kinaed says, "Okay, today's agenda, folks, is:
- Staff Updates
- Staff Topics
- Player Heartbeat
- Player Topics"
Kinaed says, "Alright, if the desire to add to the agenda changes, let me know. Staff Updates are first, I'll kick off."
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Lloyd wanders into the vicinity. [login]
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Seymor makes a note "Will edit out the lag part of log when it comes time."
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Arynon wanders into the vicinity. [login]
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Azarial scuffs her foot sheepishly.
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Kinaed says, "Last week I didn't do very much. I started to put together a specification for Places code, but it's not finished."
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Arynon grumbles about his connection.
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Seymor queries, "Places code?"
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Kinaed says, "What it will look like is both the ability to join with objects in a room to have private conversations, as well as to make an object on the fly."
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Azarial states to Arynon, "We crashed."
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Kinaed nods at Seymor.
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Arynon queries of someone, "Wasn't me?"
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Seymor claims, "Hmm.. that sounds interesting"
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A Comfortable Room
[Chilly]
A plethora of gaily coloured silk pillows with fringes and tassels
completely conceal the floor. A large pillow in the corner stands out, a
brooding black mass of velvet and fringeless. Screens of nature scenes
painted with the spare strokes of a brush that hint at and outline the
subjects, leaving much to the imagination. Behind the screens, silk
curtains and sheets painted with bright patterns hide the walls, pulled
back only around the windows that pierce the southern and western walls to
look out over a lush garden filled with an untamed riot of plants and
trees.
[ Exits: -down- ]
Arynon is here. [App: 5]
Lloyd is here. [App: 4]
Takta is here. [App: 4]
You hear a strange humming coming from him.
Gaberiel is here. [App: 3]
A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes is resting here. [App: 3]
Beronica is sitting in her rocking chair. [App: 3]
Kinaed is here. [App: 5]
Beth is here. [App: 3]
Gavin is here. [App: 3]
A tiny, flimsy woman has sunk down and nearly disappeared in a comfortable pillow. [App: 4]
Safir is here. [App: 5]
Rain is here. [App: 3]
Temi is here. [App: 5]
Azarial is here. [App: 5]
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Aios has been transferred in by Kinaed. [OOC]
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Kinaed gives Aios some coins.
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Argider wanders into the vicinity. [login]
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Azarial says, "Nope. we all were booted."
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Morgen wanders into the vicinity. [login]
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Arynon claims to Azarial, "Ah"
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Kinaed says, "Okay, so that didn't get done by today, which was my aim, but it's getting done."
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Kinaed says, "Next week, I intend to complete the places code spec so players can have a last look to vette it before passing it to Az for implementation."
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Kinaed queries, "That's it for me. Takta?"
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Kinaed wonders, "Takta isn't in the room. Temi? :)"
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Temi exclaims, "Okay!"
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Temi claims, "So, I've been working more on herbalism."
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Arynon wipes some drool away at the mention of herbalism.
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[OOC] Jiraiya: "Yay its back"
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A person wearing a silk-lined, khaki velvet cloak trimmed with soft grey fur has been transferred in by Kinaed. [OOC]
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Takta trails off, "I'm here..."
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Kinaed gives a person wearing a silk-lined, khaki velvet cloak trimmed with soft grey fur some coins.
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Temi states, "All of the concoctions, excepting the flower stuff, now has little herb blurbs, ie explanations of the lore and affects in the recipes."
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Kinaed is just blind, sorry!
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Takta grins.
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A person wearing a silk-lined, khaki velvet cloak trimmed with soft grey fur claims, "Mmm silver"
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Temi claims, "And I've also added necessary tools to all of those, and just today, success and failure messages."
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OOC channel is now OFF.
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Temi says, "Next step is the recipe procedure messages, and that'll take a bit longer, but it's coming along well."
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Kinaed asks of Temi, "What's left to do?"
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Kinaed nods.
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Seymor says, "Well i bet beronica is happy to hear this"
Temi says, "I've got basic objects made for all of the plants and concoctions, but they will need the new herbal details once Az adds those in."
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Beronica rocks her chair excitedly as she bounces in her seat.
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Temi states, "And that's been enough to keep me busy. Back to you, Kin."
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Seymor smirks to Beronica
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Kinaed smiles.
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Kinaed declares to Takta, "Sorry about that earlier. Blind. You're up!"
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Takta grins.
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Takta states, "No prob! Okay."
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Takta says, "So at some point over last week, I finished the basic sewer system. Now, I still need to finish adding secrets, interesting offshoot areas, etc."
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Takta says, "I am setting a tentative release date of the 28th, two weeks from now, which is also when I'll be holding the Sept. quest."
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Aios cheers for Takta.
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Kinaed trails off, "Wow, that's a lot to do, and grad school too..."
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Takta says, "Still very happy to take suggestions for room ideas, lore, mobs, etc. that folks would like to see in the sewers."
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A tiny, flimsy woman me holds her nose since Takta clearly just came back from the sewer building.
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Takta trails off to Kinaed, "Yeah..."
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Takta states to a tiny, flimsy woman, "Oh yeah, I'm perpetually dirty all the time. "
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Gaberiel starts writing a huge ideas list for Takta.
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Kinaed claims to Gaberiel, "We'd love to get that off you :)"
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Seymor looks at his nails "Still thinks there needs to be a cat worshipping room just for the hell of it."
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Takta claims, "I believe my next big project after the sewers is to convert woodworking to new crafting, so stay tuned."
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Gaberiel states, ":D "
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Takta exclaims, "I think that's it! (Submit ideas to me via the Request board - not Personal board, they disappear too quick!)"
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Kinaed smiles.
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Kinaed claims, "Azarial, you're up."
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Beronica has lost link.
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Azarial says, "First, thank you all very, veyr much. I am always surprised at the community we have developed here, and never in a bad way."
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Gaberiel questions to Takta, "Full descs and ideas, just ideas, or both?"
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Aios hugs Azarial.
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Beronica has reconnected.
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Kinaed stage whispers to Azarial, "I've got the donations stuff scheduled during the Staff Topics."
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Azarial states, "My time, i'll spend it how I like."
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Azarial grins.
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Takta states to Gaberiel, "Full descs are okay - I'll take it all."
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Takta grins at Azarial.
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Kinaed wonders, "Okay, well... in that case, can I merge it?"
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Gaberiel snickers at Takta.
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Azarial claims, "I have resolved a major sticking point for how temi wanted to do a more fluid poison approach, of which some fo the bugs and the crash today was part of."
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A tiny, flimsy woman me chuckles.
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Azarial says, "I will continue working on that tonight."
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Kinaed smiles at Azarial.
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Azarial claims, "Cnotes and gnotes have been updated, sharing some features. the account handler command for the staff has been updated with a few more tools; more will be added as any new account issues crop up."
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Azarial says, "Several funcitons and threads have been converted to third person, assorted other major and minor typos fixed in the code."
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Kinaed nods at Azarial.
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Azarial states, "Still trying to work on magic, but that takes more time and concentration I can apply at any given time; RL is keeping me stressed and busy."
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Azarial has awarded you 1 QP: crash
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Azarial claims, "If there is anythign else I hvae accomplished, I cannot bring it to mind."
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Kinaed smiles.
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Kinaed states, "Okay, guys. Staff Topics."
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Seymor says, "Yeah.. magic is complicated on a user level i could not imagine it on a coding level"
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Azarial nods at Seymor.
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Kinaed claims, "As you know, Azarial, his wife and his young son are without a place to live as of Monday."
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Azarial states, "Seymor especially as most of it i hvae to rewrite partially to completely for the newer system ideas."
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Kinaed claims, "We've raised a donation drive to assist him in applying for rental apartments and making his first deposit on a new place."
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Safir has lost link.
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Azarial is apartment hunting like a factory fur production behind schedule.
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Kinaed says, "Thanks to your help, we've raised $680."
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Takta cheeeers D
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Takta declaims, "Er. :D!"
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Kinaed states, "I'm going to send this money to Azarial today, and hopefully it will help him find a roof and facilitate his wife in keeping her job, which must be so much harder in these circumstances."
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Arynon exclaims, "Nice job!"
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Safir has reconnected.
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Kinaed says, "So thank you, everyone, from the bottom of our hearts. Those of you who donated, you know who you are. I've had a few people ask me to keep it on the Down Low, so I am."
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Lloyd claims, "I'm sorry about your situation, Azarial. Best to you."
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Kinaed states, "But we're so grateful."
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Azarial states, "It is. call center for the xbox konnect thingie and the online stuff."
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Azarial claims, "Thank you"
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Kinaed asks, "Anyone want to say anything else on this topic?"
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Azarial claims, "I am beggared of words."
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Kinaed hugs Azarial.
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Azarial bows deeply.
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Kinaed states to Azarial, "We all acknowledge your dedication and what you've done for us for the past several years in building this game, Az."
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Azarial states, "Coming up on nine years, I think"
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Temi claims, "Just that it's great to see everyone realising what a great person we've got in Az, and the community really coming together for him. You can't buy great programmers like this."
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Kinaed nods at Temi.
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Takta states, "Yeah, $680 is probably like, fair payment for a few days of your work. *grin*"
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves has been transferred in by Kinaed. [OOC]
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Kinaed gives a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves some coins.
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Kinaed muses, "Okay, next topic?"
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Azarial states, "I've never figured out how to realistically price the time I put in here compared to 'normal' programming jobs. it...seemed like it demeaned the work somehow."
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Kinaed claims to Azarial, "I couldn't afford to pay you programmer rates."
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Kinaed ponders.
Kinaed claims, "The next topic is a bit sensitive."
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Seymor arches his brow as he considers what this could mean
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Kinaed says, "I've had some talks with RPers who have come to TI from other RP games (specifically MUSH backgrounds) and found RP on TI not their cup of tea. I asked them a few questions around why they left, and it has to do with inconsistent RP etiquette."
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Kinaed states, "But I think it's inappropriate for me to throw up a help file on RP etiquette and expect people to follow it."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves asks, "I come from MUSH environments, and I have no problem with RP Etiquette. Can you be more specific, Kinaed?"
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Kinaed says, "I thought maybe we should come up with an agreement about what we consider being polite during RP to one another, which I'd put in a help file."
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Seymor questions, "Was it so much a matter of rudeness as in word wise or the way rp happened?"
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Kinaed claims, "Specifically, things like setting the scene for people when they come into a room, walking out of a room without emoting (when not travelling) or acknowledging other people, turns, stuff like that. "
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Takta claims, "Hrm. Problem being we all come from such different traditions... what some folks consider necessary others just do not care about or even care for. For me, there aren't any hard and fast rules except for no passive-aggressive posing and just properly 'responding' to others."
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Kinaed claims, "I think it's more about our genre of games tends to have a game-by-game set of expectations."
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Kinaed says, "TI doesn't really have any established rules other than we don't turn unless asked to, but if we're asked to, we turn."
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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes states, "My experience is that we usually kind of naturally follow that rule, anyways, for the most part"
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Takta says, "I think it should be fine to move on through a room without emoting if there's an OOC check/comment. 'Hey, just moving through, sorry'."
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Kinaed nods at a young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes.
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves states, "Yeah, I do not understand those remarks, Kinaed. I mean, I understand what you are saying, I just do not understand the logic or that statement as a motive to leave the game."
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Kinaed says, "It has been for at least one new player whom I spoke with."
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Temi claims, "Not that anyone is actually being rude."
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Temi claims, "Just that people don't know what to expect for ettiquette."
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Kinaed says, "I don't think anyone is trying to be rude, but I think their perception is that it was a rude experience."
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Kinaed nods at Temi.
Takta queries, "Did that person cite a specific piece of etiquette?"
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A tiny, flimsy woman muses, "Since this comes from some leaving the game over it, what more specifically was the RP-styles they had issues with?"
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Temi states, "So we're trying to write down what we do live by."
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Kinaed nods at Temi.
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Kinaed says, "For them, it was not having the scene set and "being acknowledged before they'd had a time to take in what was happening so they could form a pose""
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Seymor nods "I will be honest that given this is my first mud and never played a game like this before that i am kinda of oblivious to other types of rp on different game. And i agree with takta.. if your passing through say something oocly for people don't prepare a pose then have it wasted when you leave suddenly
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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes trails off, "So, in all seriousness, they got pissed about being spoken to...to quickly"
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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes says, "Rofl"
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Seymor asks, "Wait.. a scene set? really?"
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Kinaed claims, "Ie, if someone walks into a room, having other people react to their presence before they could figure out what was going on. I got the impression they're used to OOCly walking into a room, then slotting in."
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Takta says, "Gonna be blunt: I think this is that person's individual problem for expecting a MUD to follow MUSH rules."
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Kinaed states, "Remember, we're talking about different game cultures here."
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Seymor says, "Yeah i agree with takta here.. "
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Azarial states, "That sounds like it would mix ic and ooc too much for how we prefer to operate"
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Safir has lost link.
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Aios claims, "Yeah, I always thought you were supposed to scene set specifically so people DO know what's going on when they come in."
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Kinaed queries, "It might, but wouldn't it be good to have a help file about what we expect so we tell new people what to expect when they come on board?"
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Takta states, "I DO like scene-setting as an approach, but it almost requires turns."
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Delilah appears in swirl of fog, thunder sounding throughout the area lightning streaking through the clouds. [OOC]
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Kinaed says, "This isnt' about who is right or wrong, it's about retaining players who want to RP."
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Delilah is always sooo late.
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Safir has reconnected.
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Arynon claims, "Usually with those i've rp'd with, if someone walks into a room, EVERYONE sets actions to the current scene, I don't know how much more they want the scene set"
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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes claims, "Can't tell you how many times i've had people immediately do actions so i knew what was going on"
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Aios nods at Kinaed.
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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes nods at Arynon.
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Seymor nods in agreement with arynon
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Takta muses, "So we could have a rule that maybe you should set actions whenever somebody walks in, but that your codewise arrival = your IC arrival?"
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Kinaed muses, "Is that something we can write down though? If someone enters a room, update your action?"
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Kinaed nods at Takta.
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Takta asks, "So people can acknowledge you as soon as you enter, not only after you've posed?"
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Beronica states, "Moods help with scene setting as well. Plus I look to see if a person is continuing through and if I need to RP with them, I send a tell."
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Takta says, "(Truth be told MUSHes do that WAY better, but.)"
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Kinaed says, "And it doesn't have to be followed 100%, just something to give people an idea of how we prefer to RP here."
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Temi claims, "Update your action or give an explanatory emote with what's going on."
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Safir claims, "In high-traffic rooms that can be awfully repetative."
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Temi says, "If your action is already fine, I think it's fine to not do anything else."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves claims, "Honestly, I would probably cut down RPing by a LOT if I had to update my action/mood every time someone enters a room."
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Kinaed nods at Temi.
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Takta claims, "I think we can say something like 'set your action if you're doing something particular someone ought to note'."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "Now, I come from a MUSH environment, and I understand what they want, and why they want it. But I have never experienced TI as a MUSH."
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Kinaed nods at Takta.
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Azarial muses, "Maybe have them ask oocly if they need a sceneset?"
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Kinaed nods at a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves.
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A tiny, flimsy woman states, "I tend to update my action almost after every emote sometimes. It seems to be quite individual."
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Arynon says, "Yeah sometimes there's ic reasons why we don't do anything with a person, there are times i've had to icly ignore people due to talking to someone on a situation (usually knights or court business) that held priority for my character icly"
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Safir states, "I set my action immediately going into a scene and update periodically, and try to do room poses when people come in, but if I have to auto-update the action EVERY time someone enters church square, I'll spend more time doing that than posing. "
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Kinaed claims, "I can say honestly that I think MUSH and MUD RP looks for different things."
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Kinaed claims, "And I'm not saying we should be a MUSH or change who we are."
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Takta nods at Kinaed.
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "TI is a dynamic environment that changes, a MUSH is a static environment. A stage, with a deliberate and precise performance. When you walk in, you have to know which part of the performance you are viewing. TI I found far more freeform."
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Kinaed says, "But I think we SHOULD set the expectation for newbies about how we operate, otherwise we may come off poorly, even though our ways are just fine, because of what other people are used to."
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Temi claims, "I always try to acknowledge people when they arrive, but often time it's just in an emote that I'm already doing that I don't sem to notice them yet."
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Kinaed says, "I don't think we need to acknowledge people, honestly."
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Takta claims, "It's always bugged me that I tend to get acknowledged before I can pose, but that's TI."
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Azarial muses to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "Are most mushes like that?"
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Rain claims, "It seems to me that we already have relatively well-established guidelines. I can get behind having them located all in one place."
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Takta states, "I mean, that's MUDs, rather than MUSHes."
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Kinaed claims, "If their arrival is IC, then their entrance is an event."
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A tiny, flimsy woman asks, "Maybe a "TI for MUSH:ers" , "TI for MUD:ers" etc?"
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Safir queries, "How are we supposed to know what every single new person is used to? I mean, I see a cyan, I immediately try to involve them in RP, to help them out. But we're not supposed to do that?"
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Aios says, "People have also been complaining about not being acknowledged, in recent times... so it's sort of different strokes."
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Kinaed claims, "We don't, but we can set out a help file to say how we do things and add to it to faciltiate the cultural merge of new players."
Rain says, "I'm with Takta on that point, I like to watch a little to know what I'm walking into, and to prepare anything that I think those already there should know about me."
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Azarial queries, "Maybe talk to them to see what their experience is, oocly, and then go from there on their first scene?"
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Rain states, "To cut down on the cheerful greetings when I'm bleeding profusely from a hole in my head or what have you."
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Kinaed nods at Azarial.
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Takta asks, "I think it's fine to just point folks to the helpfile if they're like 'wait, HOW do we do it here?'"
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Kinaed nods at Rain.
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Takta states to Rain, "Seriously."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves claims, "You know, whois exists as a command."
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Gavin says, "That'll annoy the folks that don't want to be communicated with OOCly. ;) Still-- you can't please everyone."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves states, "And I know for a fact there is a RP Prefs there."
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Delilah grins at Rain.
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Kinaed says, "I'd like to put in a Help RP Etiquette and put it in the new player zone."
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Takta asks, "Can we mention that it's WAY EASIER to involve you if you involve yourself?"
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Kinaed says, "It will specifically state something like 'This is how we do things here, there's no right or wrong way, but this is our way' or something"
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Kinaed nods at Takta.
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Takta claims, "I.e., don't go brood silently in a tavern corner and expect established players to do all the work."
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Gaberiel says to Kinaed, "Guidelines, not rules ;)"
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Azarial says, "Those reeve barfights might involve that type, but those are not that common."
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Kinaed nods at Gaberiel.
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Safir has reconnected.
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A tiny, flimsy woman states, "There are some texts on this in the forum already."
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Kinaed claims, "I'm cool to rename it RP Etiquette guidelines."
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Kinaed nods at a tiny, flimsy woman.
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "I always have and always will involve players in a scene; But if I'm passing through, I don't expect anyone to emote for me, or say anything OOCly, is my point."
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Takta claims, "Walking on through, posing in turns, and passive-aggressive poses seem to be the major things I can think about."
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Kinaed claims to a tiny, flimsy woman, "Probably not very directed around how TI does stuff. We have a few things about twinking and turns, but not much else."
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Gaberiel says, "Maybe post a few logs of certain instantances that differ from Muds, like when people walk in. "
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Kinaed asks of Takta, "What is a passive-aggressive pose?"
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Temi muses, "Can also mention that thinks should go in think instead of emotes themselves?"
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Takta states, "'Takta looks askance at Kinaed for her stupid question.'"
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A tiny, flimsy woman claims, "I was wondering about that too."
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Kinaed says, "I'd put in stuff about using the think command instead of including thoughts in a pose."
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Takta states, "Or, etc."
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Takta states, "When the text of the pose clearly is mocking or insulting the other character."
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Takta declares to Kinaed, "Er, not that it was a stupid question!"
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Takta claims, "That was just the most obvious example in context."
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Kinaed claims, "Keep 'em coming, I'm taking notes."
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Takta says, "Present tense, not past tense."
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Seymor laughs at Takta's sudden correction "Quick takta back away slowly."
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Takta claims, "Past tense emotes weird me out, man."
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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes claims, "Lol i agree with Takta"
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "I just find this entire issue funny. The only hard and fast rule in MUSHes is not 'power posing'."
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A tiny, flimsy woman is being non-passive-aggressive by noting what a brilliant description Takta just did of passive-aggressive posing.
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Takta laaaaughs.
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Arynon was sitting over there.
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Gaberiel jumped on Takta and glomped her. Sagenod.
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Takta says to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "Well, depends an awful lot on the game."
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Somewhere, a dog barked. [Rain]
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves claims, "I guess."
Azarial asks, "Power posing?"
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Takta claims to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "The MUSHes I played had a lot more set-in-stone etiquette than TI."
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Azarial is completely clueless.
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Gaberiel claims, "I honestly avoid people who power pose >_> "
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Takta slaps Azarial so hard he's knocked to the ground! POWER POSED.
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Temi queries, "Are we noting already that travelling through without stopping isn't really considered rude?"
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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes queries, "What is power posing?"
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Azarial states, "Ahh, closed emotes."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves states, "Doing something without another player's permission, or acting for them"
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Rain nods at Azarial.
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Kinaed states, "Added no closed emoted."
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A tiny, flimsy woman questions, "Power pose sounds like godmodding?"
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Azarial says, "I rmember that form old TI."
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Takta claims, "Oh yeah, I forgot it's called closed emotes here."
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Lloyd is idle.
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Azarial found soe logs from back when cats were pets, and would camp a bar, 'doze', and let the cat roam while trying to figure out wtf.
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Gaberiel says, "I always add in something like 'kisses Kinaed, if she allows, or doesn't relatiate to the act.' "
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Arynon exclaims, "Hey we have a file on no closed emotes, i read it once! *really does read from time to time*"
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Kinaed claims, "I'm going to put in that we don't have a hard and fast turn taking rule, but we do loosely take turns, so give people a chance to respond, esp in high tense situations"
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says to Gaberiel, "We need to RP more."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves is kidding.
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Takta says to Kinaed, "That makes sense to me."
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Temi nods at Kinaed.
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Kinaed nods at Arynon.
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Gaberiel growls and claws at a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves. "Me-ow!" D
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Lloyd is no longer idle.
Lloyd has returned from AFK.
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Kinaed claims, "I think we need to take a lot of these disparate etiquette stuff already in help files and consolidate it, then throw it in newbie."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves snickers.
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Kinaed asks, "Anything else people want to add about how we do stuff?"
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Takta states, "Bullet lists/short descriptions with links to longer helpfiles is always really handy."
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Rain nods in agreement with Takta.
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Kinaed nods at Takta.
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves states, "I was PR staff on a few MUSHes, I know most of the etiquette and stuff that happens there. So if you need help, I'd be glad to lend a hand."
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Kinaed states, "We'll do that."
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Arynon queries to Kinaed, "Can we add a 'How awesome is TI?" section? :D"
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Azarial claims, "Oh, right. guildleaders can sponsor at a cost of 5ip."
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Azarial forgot that.
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Kinaed states to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "I'd love a list of what you'd put in an etiquette help file there, then I'll talk about each point with TI people, decide if we do that or if we think we ought to do that, then come up with something."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves muses, "... wait, we can do that?"
Aios muses to Azarial, "What's the process on that? Coded or ask an imm?"
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Azarial says, "Coded."
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Takta states to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "It's new."
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Gaberiel exclaims, "Vodka + Seirra Mist Cran = warm face and a giggling Gaybeeee!"
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "I thin-- oh."
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Kinaed claims, "I'll put the help file up on the forums before installing it here, because I think something like this needs buy in from people. It's OUR culture we're establishing."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves claims, "Cause I may have abused a bug otherwise."
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Temi claims, "That was an additional code update from Az this week."
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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves starts writing a note. (This is an OOC action)
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Takta nods at Kinaed.