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Log of OOC Meeting 10/11/2014

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:07 pm
by Tremere
Kinaed states, "Today's Agenda:
- Staff Updates
- Player Heartbeat
- Player Topics"


Haeva Soler says, "Evangeline stole my 140 silver manacles :("


Kinaed questions, "Anyone care to raise something for the agenda to make sure we talk about it today?"


Maxwell le Wattkil trails off, "...Sweet. Now you all have no reason not to buy my alcohol. Muahaha..."


Terryn dul Valistovos looks up at Nedyra as puts coins in his pouch near the altar, " Thanks!"

Nedyra gives Emma ab Courtland some coins.

Roewina Rosencarth states to Kinaed, "Ideas for help escape and the escape roll. "


Haeva Soler says, "We should probably inform people that the Knights and Order split, since that was a concern"

Kinaed says to Roewina Rosencarth, "Writing that down. "


Karrina ab Vazien grins to Roewina Rosencarth. "That plus a hot Vavardi with plenty of Vodka and a long itch."

Haeva Soler states to Roewina Rosencarth, "Agreed. "

Kinaed says to Haeva Soler, "Didn't we post that somewhere? Okay, will add that too."

Jocelyn le Decori begins to count their money.


Nedyra says, "I think it was mentioned on the forums/in other OOc chats, but never officially announced."


Kinaed queries, "Alright, anyone else have anything they want to make sure we talk about?"


Nedyra will do that.


Haeva Soler states, "Not that I know of. Also, be right back. No magery while I'm gone"

Kinaed nods at Nedyra.


Jocelyn le Decori lovvvves money.

Roewina Rosencarth questions to Kinaed, "How wonderful you are? Can we talk about that?"


Nedyra starts writing a note. (This is an OOC action)

Kinaed wonders to Roewina Rosencarth, "We can, but let's insert it into every other paragraph rather than at the end, hey? :P"


Kinaed says, "Okay, let's kick off staff updates."


Kinaed states, "I've given Ranged Combat to Ariel's player to spec up because she's the most qualified person to do it besides myself, and I've been struggling with interest to work on it."

Kinaed has transferred a strong-framed, young Charali man. [OOC]


Terryn dul Valistovos wouldn't mind hearing how ranged is doing, plus Kinky is wonderful.


Kinaed muses, "To that end, Ariel's player has posted on the forums: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=902"


Maxwell le Wattkil claims, "I. Wouldn't mind taking archery."


Jocelyn le Decori declares, "Awesome! (for ranged, not you)"


Kinaed states, "If you have a view or anything you'd like to suggest, please respond to that post."

Jocelyn le Decori has lost link.
Jocelyn le Decori has reconnected.

Kinaed claims to Maxwell le Wattkil, "Archery is a part of what Ariel is doing, so please have a chat with her."


Terryn dul Valistovos says to Kinaed, "I've talked to Ariel about it, things like defense dropping a bit for anyone charging an archer. Kinky is wonderful."

Nedyra gives a strong-framed, young Charali man some coins.


Kinaed claims, "Okay, so now that I've passed Ranged Combat on to someone who will likely write a spec more quickly than I will, I've moved on to the plot spec."

Kinaed has created Plot Commands Specification[20].

Kinaed drops the following:
( 20)Plot Commands Specification


Jocelyn le Decori says, "Ooo"


Kinaed states, "As you know, we've been discussing how cevents might work."


Maxwell le Wattkil states, "...Oh god. I'm carrying so much alcohol, I can't read the spec."


Terryn dul Valistovos says, "The book needs a picture of a fishhook on it."

Kinaed claims, "We've decided that we don't precisely need city events at this time, at least not a command to roll a city event. We can just meet and plan out a series of 10-12 events each year and run them once a month."

read plot
Tomas studies Plot Commands Specification in his hands.
01: Overview
02: Plot Commands
03: Plot List Example

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Tomas examines Plot Commands Specification.
Subject: Overview

Date: Sat Oct 11 17:12:40 2014


Lunisda, Septembris 26, 363

OVERVIEW

The plot system is a place where players can advance the game's plot, be
rewarded for it, contribute to the master timeline, and request staff
support to make the game's environment come alive/react to the player's
activities.


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Tomas examines Plot Commands Specification.
Subject: Plot Commands

Date: Sat Oct 11 17:22:57 2014


Lunisda, Septembris 26, 363

PLOT COMMANDS

Syntax: plot create <title>
plot list
plot match 0tring]
plot <section> match 0tring]
plot timeline <date1> <date2>
plot unprocessed list

Staff : plot delete #
plot complete # # QP # R
plot edit #

The plot system exists to allow the staff to reward players who advance
plots. The system doubles as a documentation system for timelines, so
staff can datamine for lore, etc.

===========================================================================
Plot create <title> will put a player into a POLCA where they can fill
in information about the plot that they've advanced as follows:

Plot Submission

Title : <Title typed above, changable>
Plot Advance : <Enter editor to type up plot advancement, limit 3200>
Contributors : <Names of players who were involved>
Share To : <Defaults None, else a list of player names or All>
Staff Support: <Enter editor, 3200>
Notes : <Editor for additional notes, 3200>
Staff Reply : <Editor for staff comments, 3200>
Processed : <Default No, becomes yes when staff PROCESS it>
Staff Tags : <default empty, can add plot keywords, etc>

POLCA:

The plot advance and title sections will automatically spawn a cnote.

The title just acts as a title, and the title of the cnote.

Plot advance is a freeform text where players can describe what they've
done, and is the basis for staff rewards.

Contributors are other players involved in the RP that staff should know
about when either awarding or enacting support.

Share to are the other players the creater is willing to let see and
index the entry.

Staff support is the section where the player specifies any particular
things they'd like the staff to do to support the RP they're having. For
example, a noble saying they're going to march on Lithmore might request
IC_Events, rumors, trade embargos, etc.

Notes is just an additional space where the player can write any private
notes to staff that people the note is shared to cannot see. This
information will be appended to the cnote and might include things like:

PS: I know Kinaed is a mage, but I'm playing a double game here.

The staff reply and sections below it are not player set-able or editable.

Staff reply is where a staff member writes a note. This information is
not recorded to cnotes or in the plot system. It might be something like:

Awesome! I've awarded 3 QP 3 Rec for this, keep it coming!

Staff Processed is whether or not the submission is finalized - it will
only copy to cnotes and show to the players it is shared to when it
has been processed.

Staff can add keywords to the plot so that we can group them for later
data mining. For example, we might tag it 'flood' if it were part of

[ Press (c)ontinue, (r)efresh, (b)ack, (q)uit or hit (h)elp ] (71% complete)

the flood quest. This is solely to make the plot searchable.

===========================================================================
NON POLCA COMMANDS

Plot list will list all plots in the system that a person has access
to. For players, this is what they have submitted, or what is shared to them.
For staff, this is everything in the system.

Plot match <string> will list all plots in the system that a person
has access to, that has the string matched exactly as written (similar to
help match or gnote match).

Plot <section> match <string> will do the same match as above, but limit
the search to a specific section.

Plot timeline <date1> <date2> will list all plots that were submitted
between the two given dates.

Plot unprocessed list will list all plots a player has access to
that a staff member has not yet processed.
===========================================================================
STAFF COMMANDS

Plot delete # will immediately delete a plot from the system.

Plot complete # # QP # R will mark a plot as processed and award the
specified QP and Rec_Level.

Plot edit # will put the staff member into the POLCA to edit the
staff fields (or other fields if they choose) of the plot.


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Tomas examines Plot Commands Specification.
Subject: Plot List Example

Date: Sat Oct 11 17:32:17 2014


Lunisda, Septembris 26, 363

PLOT LIST EXAMPLE

plot list
VNUM TITLE CONTRIBUTOR DATE SUBMITTED
1 Backstabbing in the Parlour Kinaed Oct 11 2014 17:25
2 * Parlour Tricks Azarial Oct 11 2014 18:35
3 Parlour Plot PROCESSED Temi Oct 11 2014 19:35

NOTES:
- Unprocessed plots appear brighter. Processed notes appear darker.
- A red dot appears ahead of shared plots as above.


Kinaed says, "Which isn't to say that we don't want to eventually have a city event command, because we do, it's just that the real gold of this operation is bringing the world, city, and especially YOUR ROLEPLAY to life."

Terryn dul Valistovos claims, "The book needs a picture of a fishhook on it."

Karrina ab Vazien looks at a book in her hands.


Terryn dul Valistovos says OOCly, "Stupid repeat"

Karrina ab Vazien claims to Haeva Soler, "It says right here the Kinead is a mage. We should purify her to save her soul."


Kinaed says, "So what we propose is that, not really instead of cnotes (though this system will automatically cnote for you), but as you RP, you can put forth something you've done to advance the game's plot to staff."


Haeva Soler says, "Warrant issued. Bring her in as soon as possible"


Terryn dul Valistovos claims to Karrina ab Vazien, "If you do that, then the world ends, and the Order can't burn anymore mages."


Kinaed claims, "The staff will read your plot submission, and reward you very similarly to how we do recommends... and do all the things that need to happen to make the game react to what you did, from rumors, ic_event boards, whatever else."


Terryn dul Valistovos feels sorry for the scribe, " Going to be a bunch of 'reading' spam to clear out."


Kinaed states, "You can, when you write up a plot submission, include other people as contributors and also share the submission if you want people to see it."


Karrina ab Vazien says, "I just realized that the entire withdrawal from Edessa could fall under this."

Kinaed has transferred a fair haired Lithmorran man. [OOC]

Maxwell le Wattkil disposes of Plot Commands Specification.

Kinaed nods at Karrina ab Vazien.

Nedyra gives a fair haired Lithmorran man some coins.

Jocelyn le Decori begins to move north.

A dark-haired man in his mid twenties begins to count their money.

Jocelyn le Decori comes to a stop.


Kinaed states, "Exactly; and rather than having a dead world that doesn't even notice troops withdrawing, we might have events, NPC responses and riots, etc, that make it back to the capital."


Kinaed claims, "The whole idea is to make RP matter to the world."

Terryn dul Valistovos asks of Kinaed, "Can we use this for my ultimate plan of having an earthquake destroy southside and making it all open sewers and lean-tos? *can be mean*"


Karrina ab Vazien claims, "Which is good. Makes the place feel more alive than just having a chunk in a snow globe."


Kinaed states, "I think the biggest problem we have with a static world is that the job of making things come alive is huge. Hopefully this system will break it all down into bite-sized chunks."


Jocelyn le Decori claims, "That'd be neat :) er. not the ss destruction part."

Kinaed says to Terryn dul Valistovos, "You can try, I'm not sure how it'd work out."

Kinaed nods at Karrina ab Vazien.


Terryn dul Valistovos will write something up!


Nedyra motions for a 75% modifier against, because holy lordy that'd be a lot of rebuilding.

Nedyra grins.


Haeva Soler states, "Admins don't have enough to do"


Haeva Soler nods sagely


Kinaed says, "Anyway, there is the plot command as I see it at this time."


Roewina Rosencarth whips NEdy, "YOU WILL BUILD!"


Maxwell le Wattkil questions, "...So. I can have a ton of NPC bandits rove the roads outside the city?"


Emma ab Courtland trails off, "This is... awesome"


Kinaed claims, "I'd love for people to take it away, have a read, and suggest any refinements."


Jocelyn le Decori nods at Kinaed.



A fair haired Lithmorran man trails off, "This is..."

Kinaed claims to Maxwell le Wattkil, "Well, if your character has a way to make that happen, then yes. If not, then no. Setting up quests and plots beyond the starting threads of RP is more of a staff or storyteller job."


A fair haired Lithmorran man says, "Wow"

Haeva Soler pulls closed her cloak, hiding her garments.


Haeva Soler says, "I'm confused"


Kinaed states, "Rather, we want to record and help with player actions and reactions to what is going on in the world."

Kinaed wonders to Haeva Soler, "How so?"


Haeva Soler queries, "Is this a way to prove that you furthered plot, and gain rewards, or is this a way to ask for admin support to further the plot?"

Kinaed states to Haeva Soler, "Both."


Haeva Soler wonders, "Gotcha. And you're not worried that this might overwhelm the staff?"

Haeva Soler flips swords cross a Chalice on the back of a spacious, silk cape back over her shoulder.


Kinaed says, "There are sections in the POLCA where you can request staff do certain things, and we reward you for raising the request and showing you're RPing."


Kinaed says, "I am worried about that, yes."


Karrina ab Vazien claims, "The staff creates plots, and we submit our reactions and action to said plots even as we do our regular RP around town. We will get reports of the results which will build into more actions. Pretty much you are doing downtime actions."


Haeva Soler states, "I thought QP was there to limit the amount of demands we can put on the staff to a reasonable level."


Kinaed states, "That's partly why it's limited to us being responsive to what you're doing rather than, as Maxwell suggested, just creating an event of bandits roving around that we need to respond to."


Haeva Soler questions, "And you're not worried this will make QP irrelevant?"

Kinaed states to Haeva Soler, "It is, and this is a paradigm shift that we may regret. In past OOC Chats, I've acknowledged that we're opening a can of worms that staff have avoided for a very, very long time."


Kinaed claims, "I have fears about how it might work out."


Roewina Rosencarth queries, "And you said that global effects could, for example, bring down prices on trade materials, or raise them?"


Haeva Soler nods and says to Kinaed, "Alright. I suppose we will see how this goes."


Kinaed says, "I'm not worried about QP being irrelevant, no. As it is, QP can be exchanged for heaps of things, from XP to silver. They're not going to go out of style."


Kinaed says, "Staff time is the more limited commodity."

Kinaed nods at Roewina Rosencarth.

Roewina Rosencarth nods.


Nedyra states, "And there are already several million ways to get QP, so one more won't change that."


Kinaed says, "If a player is genuinely in a position to suggest something happen, and try to enact it in RP, then I think it's appropriate for the staff to prop it up."

Roewina Rosencarth trails off to Nedyra, "Speaking of which, I need to set up a blog..."


Jocelyn le Decori misses her qp.

Nedyra says to Roewina Rosencarth, "Request board, please."

Roewina Rosencarth claims to Nedyra, "Will do. :D"


Kinaed claims, "The biggest fears I have are:

- Not enough staff availability to do this stuff justice
- Player mismatch between what they think they can do and what staff think they can do."


Kinaed claims, "That said, I think it'd improve the game leaps and bounds if we do this."


Karrina ab Vazien says, "Sweet mother of Dav, I just imagined that this would turn into the influence games of Vampire: the Masquerade."

Roewina Rosencarth claims to Kinaed, "Make a helpfile, that outlines that stuff. "


Kinaed states, "So I think we should handle the above issues when they happen."


A fair haired Lithmorran man muses, "Have you considered hiring a new staffer to handle this alone?"

Kinaed claims to Roewina Rosencarth, "That's a good idea."


A fair haired Lithmorran man states, "Or an Aide"


Haeva Soler wonders, "As Grand Inquisitor, I can assign Knights to every member of the game, to tell me if they do magic, right?"

Roewina Rosencarth declaims to Haeva Soler, "NO!"

Kinaed says to Haeva Soler, "No, staff wouldn't view that as IC."


Azarial claims, "Not enough knights."


Kinaed states, "PCs and NPCs are the same in the IC world, you couldn't single them out on the OOC factor that they are PCs."

Kinaed says to Azarial, "That too."


A dark-haired man in his mid twenties says, "The exchange rate on QP to Silver or XP has always been horribly out of balance compared to their perceived value for other RPA / Staff purchased tasks. If this is going to take the place of some of the staff expenditures of QP and reduce the list of things you can do with QP then I think it would balance things out to make QP harder to get and increase the exchange rates for Silver/XP. But that's all up to staff anyway and how this ends up implemented."


Kinaed says, "Okay, we're 20 minutes into this meeting, and I've banged on a bit about what I've been up to."

Kinaed nods at a dark-haired man in his mid twenties.

Kinaed says to a dark-haired man in his mid twenties, "I'll take that under advisement, and we may look at revamping the QP earning channels."


Haeva Soler states, "Yeah, I can get more XP from torturing a mage or two than I can from ten QP, which are harder to get. I was saving for RPA if I needed it"

Kinaed nods at Haeva Soler.


Jocelyn le Decori says, "I wish I came across qp as easy as so many seem to. But i actually use it up."


Azarial says, "Typos, bugs, books."


Kinaed states, "Okay, I think that's everything from me - please read the spec and contact me through email, mudmail, personal board, skype/google hangouts, forum posts, whatever - if you have suggestions."


A strong-framed, young Charali man says, "I can hardly even get xp >.>"




Haeva Soler states, "I mean, it's not that hard to get two a week for free, and then Azarial sometimes hands it out after crashes"

Kinaed muses to Azarial, "You're up - but I think you just went. Anything else to add?"


Jocelyn le Decori states, "I wish I could convert xp into QP haha."

Kinaed asks of a strong-framed, young Charali man, "Why is that?"


Terryn dul Valistovos says OOCly, "Sorry need to log for about 30 min, can I be transed back?"


Haeva Soler claims, "Now that would be a bad idea."

Terryn dul Valistovos has been transferred out by Kinaed. [OOC]


[OOC] [whoinvis]: "Ty"


Nedyra hands out QP for character blogs, just for the record.


A fair haired Lithmorran man muses, "Orly?"


Roewina Rosencarth begs for less things to make him rpxp crazy.


A strong-framed, young Charali man muses, "ORLY?"


Haeva Soler says, "I don't think I'm a good enough writer"


Nedyra trails off, "Speaking of bringing some of your RP to life..."


Jocelyn le Decori has blogged twice in the last two days. yup.

Roewina Rosencarth muses to Haeva Soler, "Ever keep a journal?"

Kinaed wonders to Azarial, "Anything to add beyond that you've kicked the <@@@> !^& out of bugs recently?"


A strong-framed, young Charali man claims, "Also, Kinaed, it might just be me being an idiot, but it seems surprisingly hard finding RPable people sometimes :V"


Maxwell le Wattkil says, "I ned to make a blog."


Azarial says, "Not really."

Kinaed questions to a strong-framed, young Charali man, "Do you use whererp and travel?"
Maxwell le Wattkil claims to a strong-framed, young Charali man, "It's hard for me to find RP sometimes, don't worry."


Azarial claims, "Not much success anywhere else to report."


Haeva Soler states, "I'd like to thank Azarial for resolving the training bug so fast. That was awesome."


Maxwell le Wattkil claims, "Like, I'm 2nd on the activity list, and it's hard to find RP sometimes."

Roewina Rosencarth says to a strong-framed, young Charali man, "Wherecyan and messengers ;D"


A strong-framed, young Charali man says, "Yeah, though most people who show up on whererp seem to be in less-public spaces."


A fair haired Lithmorran man says, "That's odd. Every time I've walked out onto the main grid I get mauled by hungry rpers."

Azarial says, "Crash bugs are first priority"

Haeva Soler claims to a strong-framed, young Charali man, "Join a guild. Any of them."


Kinaed claims, "Oh, on Azarial's behalf - fighting NPCs no longer uses ranges at all. You'll only need to work with range if you're combating PCs."


Kinaed says, "Someone please test this in combat and let us know if they discover any issues."


Tomas states to Kinaed, "Nice, I love that"

Haeva Soler states, "It works"


Azarial states, "I think ned did"


Roewina Rosencarth praises the imms for this.


Jocelyn le Decori says, "Sweet."


Haeva Soler says, "From what I've seen, at least"


Kinaed questions, "Okay, Nedyra, you're up?"


Haeva Soler wonders, "Can we have the NPC trainers defend less?"


Nedyra says, "Largely testing things. Ranged combat with SNPC's, a couple crash bug tests."

Maxwell le Wattkil claims to Kinaed, "Are you sure? I'm kinda hitting remarkably weak because it seems to set my range at 0 for my polearm, and that's super bad."


Maxwell le Wattkil says, "Like, SUPER bad"


Nedyra says, "I've had school things taking up most of my attention, so haven't been as here as I'd like. Oops."

Kinaed states to Maxwell le Wattkil, "I know that was the intent. Please bug it."


Maxwell le Wattkil claims, "Alright."


Nedyra states, "Also: I'm aware some folks have experienced warnings on TI's website. I'm looking into that."

Maxwell le Wattkil starts writing a note. (This is an OOC action)


Nedyra says, "That's it from me."


Jocelyn le Decori muses, "I gotta head off. can I get a trans back to the repository?"


Kinaed states, "Xin couldn't be here today, but she posted what she was up to for me to share as her update:"


Emma ab Courtland claims, "Googling for "TI: Legacy" shows the website, and beneath it it says "This site may be hacked." For the record. Thought it was odd since it looks fine."

Maxwell le Wattkil finishes his note.

Nedyra says to Emma ab Courtland, "That's the issue I'm looking into. There's nothing wrong with the site, just need Google to catch up."


Haeva Soler states, "I've had that message too"


Jocelyn le Decori says, "Wow."


Emma ab Courtland nodnods.


Roewina Rosencarth claims, "It just brought it up for me as well >_>"


A dark-haired man in his mid twenties claims, "It's no biggie. Whoever's doing the web development (probably ned) needs to log into google webmaster tools and check their list of issues. "


Kinaed claims, "Xin's done a lot of typos, requests, and phome work. However, she hasn't finished filling the King's Forest with animals as intended. She has completed the basic crafting standards (staff side) and they were approved. You're likely to see the price of ingredients and items changing in NPC shops, as well as energy requirements for certain recipes to be adjusted. Same for gathering skills. We're working out the details on ensuring there's a standard rate of return for certain ingredients, or return of ingredients back to the crafters on failure. Also, much lower priority but still on the docket, Xin is looking through crafts and changing some around so there are fewer common ingredients that only have use in one recipe."


Azarial claims, "I think she was waiting for assistance on resets or the chites"


Nedyra claims, "I'm not sure why it's happening, since as I say, the website itself isn't compromized, though there are a few things I'm still giving a hard stare at."

Kinaed nods at Azarial.


Jocelyn le Decori has to go. will be back in a bit.

A dark-haired man in his mid twenties claims to Nedyra, "If you can log into the site's google webmaster tools account (or create one if there isn't one) it will tell you specifically why it's throwing that error."

Jocelyn le Decori has been transferred out by Kinaed. [OOC]

Kinaed nods at a dark-haired man in his mid twenties.



Nedyra states to a dark-haired man in his mid twenties, "We have one, and I've been there. It's not overly helpful."


Nedyra states, "The URL it's complaining about, for instance, ... doesn't exist."


Kinaed questions, "Okay, I believe that's staff updates complete?"


Kinaed wonders, "Staff, anything to add?"


Nedyra states, "Not from me."


(visnet) Player Wrien: Yes please


Kinaed claims, "Okay, let's move on to Player Heartbeat."

Kinaed has transferred an enormous man with caramel-kissed skin. [OOC]

Nedyra gives an enormous man with caramel-kissed skin some coins.


Kinaed asks, "How has RP been lately, folks? Anything you'd like the staff to be doing to help out?"


Roewina Rosencarth trails off, "Rp has been..... interesting >_> "


Haeva Soler says, "Much fun RP. Even if I can't seem to keep anyone in the tower, there have been plenty of people to Review, and yell at."

Kinaed smiles.


Kinaed states, "Awesome to hear that."


An enormous man with caramel-kissed skin states, "Rp has been a blast for me lately. kinda slowing down but im having fun. This new timezone sucks trying to catch people but im getting over it."


Haeva Soler smiles at Roewina Rosencarth


Karrina ab Vazien says, "Been doing my knightly duty and falling into temptation."

Kinaed comforts an enormous man with caramel-kissed skin.


Haeva Soler questions, "What knight hasn't?"


Roewina Rosencarth wiggles at Karrina ab Vazien.

Kinaed claims to an enormous man with caramel-kissed skin, "I know your pain re:timezones, believe me."

Kinaed grins at Karrina ab Vazien.

An enormous man with caramel-kissed skin grins at Kinaed.


Maxwell le Wattkil states, "I need more dudes to hang out with."


Kinaed states, "Okay, thanks for the feedback. Let's start having a look at player topics. Roe, care to introduce:

Ideas for help escape and the escape roll."


Emma ab Courtland gives Max an atomic wedgie.


A strong-framed, young Charali man has been scraping for RP for the most part, still. Maybe it's because he's not in a guild, who knows.


A fair haired Lithmorran man states, "Aidan's not man enough for Max :("


Roewina Rosencarth claims, "Gimme a sec to type this out. "

Haeva Soler states to a strong-framed, young Charali man, "Seriously. Get in a guild"


A dark-haired man in his mid twenties says, "I will say that, on behalf of at least one of my alts, I'd like to see more activity / rp in the southside. If you have alt's that are southsiders don't neglect them, they get sad when they sit on a shelf unplayed. :)"

Maxwell le Wattkil hugs a fair haired Lithmorran man.

Haeva Soler states to a strong-framed, young Charali man, "Any of them. You'll have an excuse to talk to people."


Maxwell le Wattkil says, "Merchants best guild."




Nedyra says, "It depends on when you log on and what everyone else's doing. I've gotten a ton of RP on my indi character. ... When I had time to play my indi character."


Haeva Soler says, "The Grand Magnate is pretty awesome, but don't tell her I said that"

Kinaed says to Haeva Soler, "She might read the log :P"


Maxwell le Wattkil states, "Also, can I just say? If you're gonna be somewhere that other people can't get to, turn off RP, please? It kinda makes me grumpy to see people in 'Locked Room Behind twenty doors surrounded by armed guards with rifles' '4 people.'"


A dark-haired man in his mid twenties trails off, "Oh, if the grand magnate's not here then... I propose we disband the merchant's guild :)"

Kinaed nods at Maxwell le Wattkil.

Haeva Soler states to Tomas, "Strike it from the record"


Maxwell le Wattkil slaps a dark-haired man in his mid twenties.


Kinaed claims, "Everyone hates it when people do that, and everyone does it anyway."


An enormous man with caramel-kissed skin agrees with Maxwell le Wattkil


Haeva Soler says, "I just forget to turn it off, though I am a person who does that."


Roewina Rosencarth states, "I think there should be a more stylized way to do escapes. The only bonuses in the helpfile now, are if you have been on and not rp'd with, which is fine, but I think that there should be more bonuses handed out, but harder to get out. I mean, I was bound by rope, with a candle left on me, with -numerous- coded items in my inv and in the room, that could have help me in my escape one way or another, and I think that should have been taken into account. "


Kinaed claims, "Seriously, we've asked people forever to please turn off RP when they're not interested in RP, but they don't."


Azarial did suggest tossing the RP croc at single player rooms.


Haeva Soler states, "Still, for places like the Common Cells, even if not everyone can get it, it can be important to have RP on"

Kinaed has transferred Zeita von Zarrova. [OOC]


A dark-haired man in his mid twenties claims, "I have the opposite issue. I think people forget they have their RP turned off after they leave a private setting."


Haeva Soler says OOCly, "Oh god she is here"

Kinaed nods at a dark-haired man in his mid twenties.


Zeita von Zarrova waves.

Kinaed states to Haeva Soler, "Yeah, can't talk about her behind her back anymore. :P"


Nedyra gives Zeita von Zarrova some coins.


Maxwell le Wattkil claims, "Aww yis, Zei. We gonna rock that market."

Maxwell le Wattkil has gone IAW.


Kinaed says, "Anyway, re: Roe - I'm not sure how to respond to that, per se."


Haeva Soler states, "I want there to be a way for the escape process to be automated"


Kinaed claims, "Right now, it seems ridiculously easy to get out of a cell to me."


Haeva Soler states, "So I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum from /tubori"


Roewina Rosencarth says, "That is why I am suggesting to make it harder"


Haeva Soler says, "I also want it harder."


Kinaed says, "We have players, like Casimir, who have literally walked out of the tower 3 times ICly."


Roewina Rosencarth snorts at Haeva Soler.


Haeva Soler questions, "Doesn't it say you can't escape more than once?"


Haeva Soler queries, "In the help file?"

An enormous man with caramel-kissed skin claims to Kinaed, "I would have to agree after watching 1 person escape 3 times back to back before that new rule went in. "


Haeva Soler says, "Something about extra security"


Nedyra states, "That change went in post-casimir, Haeva."


Kinaed trails off, "At the stage we're saying 'yeah, you easily slip out of the ropes binding you..' ('cause why not?) '..and slaughter the guards..'..."

A dark-haired man in his mid twenties states to Kinaed, "I'm sorry, I need clarification on something. Isn't it common knowledge, at least within the order / knights. That magic is prevented in River Square."


Kinaed says, "And it gets back to what I was saying about people believing their plan is so much better than staff thing it is too."



Kinaed claims to Haeva Soler, "It might say that now, but it didn't before. Not sure."


Haeva Soler states, "Seriously though, I think the process needs to be automated. It sucks when I have a cool burning plan, and then someone asks me OOC to wait for an admin, then it takes two days, and then they get out. "

Kinaed says to a dark-haired man in his mid twenties, "I don't think it's common knowledge to knights or order members."

Kinaed says to Haeva Soler, "I agree there."


Kinaed claims, "Maybe we can use the plot system for that. *ponder*"


Haeva Soler says, "It's one of those things that is incredibly awkward IC and OOC to pause, and yet I feel that someone should get a fair chance to escape."


Kinaed states, "Anyway, I'm sorry to say that without Temi and Xin, I can't easily answer how we might improve Captivity Rolls. Happy to hear suggestions here and table them at our next staff meeting."

Kinaed nods at Haeva Soler.


A dark-haired man in his mid twenties claims, "Oh, I thought at one time that it was. I personally think it should be, because otherwise it tends to prevent mages / heretics from participating in their pyre / sentencing RP if they're gagged. Small meaningless emotes aside, it's stifling. If it was common knowledge that magic didn't work there then they could be ungagged and participate in he RP."


A dark-haired man in his mid twenties states, "*the RP."

Kinaed nods at a dark-haired man in his mid twenties.


Roewina Rosencarth agrees with this as well.


Kinaed says, "I take your point; I just don't see how they'd know or what they'd attribute it to."


Haeva Soler wonders, "For that matter, how did it come about?"


An enormous man with caramel-kissed skin trails off, "You cant cast in riversquare anymore? I remember getting backlash from my casts... Oh... thats why...."


Roewina Rosencarth muses, "What was the act that made it that way?"

Kinaed claims to Haeva Soler, "The answer is written into the astral plane. :)"

An enormous man with caramel-kissed skin says to Kinaed, "Anyone who knows must be a mage and burnt aswell."

An enormous man with caramel-kissed skin grins at Kinaed.

Kinaed nods at an enormous man with caramel-kissed skin.


Haeva Soler trails off, "Well, for those of us who don't have access to the astral plane..."


Kinaed says, "Awhile back, there was a huge Manus break-out of someone on the pyre."


A fair haired Lithmorran man wonders, "Find out from someone who does have access?"


An enormous man with caramel-kissed skin asks, "Was that before Yves or after?"


Kinaed states, "They cast a LOT of crazy spells ato noce."

Kinaed says to an enormous man with caramel-kissed skin, "K-something."


Maxwell le Wattkil wonders, "And they just blew it all up?"

Kinaed nods at Maxwell le Wattkil.


Haeva Soler claims, "That's sorta awesome"


A fair haired Lithmorran man trails off, "That's......amazing"


Maxwell le Wattkil claims, "Those DAMN DIRTY AAAAPPES"


Kinaed states, "Drained the energies from the area big time."


Roewina Rosencarth slaps Maxwell le Wattkil.


A dark-haired man in his mid twenties states, "I've considered having a villainous character sail a vessel of war down the bren and take ahalin tower down by cannon fire."


Haeva Soler says, "If anyone tries it on any of my burnings, I'll have them all in irons"


Maxwell le Wattkil says, "Mage plot to bring back the magic in the area."


A dark-haired man in his mid twenties shrugs.

Haeva Soler states to a dark-haired man in his mid twenties, "That seem a bit unrealistic."


Kinaed says, "Well, hopefully with the plot system in play, people can do that sort of thing."

An enormous man with caramel-kissed skin whispers to a dark-haired man in his mid twenties, 'le. .. .n.w .. y.u w..t help.'


Kinaed claims, "But it seems like I need to get that help file up with limitations, etc."


Haeva Soler says, "That would be great"

Roewina Rosencarth smiles at Kinaed.


Kinaed states, "Ideally, it won't flood the heck out of staff because players have to do some work to engage us by writing up the plot."


Kinaed muses, "Any suggestions on limitations?"


Kinaed says, "Personally, I hate plots that suggest burning down game infrastructure, mostly for OOC reasons - everyone thinks they're the first person to want to burn down the Bluebird, and no one considers that it took a builder hours and hours of time to build the damn Bluebird."


Kinaed claims, "Just for example."


A fair haired Lithmorran man claims, "Agreed"


Maxwell le Wattkil declaims, "Why does everyone want to destroy?!"


Haeva Soler says, "No powergaming that people can't respond to"


Maxwell le Wattkil declares, "I want to build!"


Kinaed says, "So an occasional blow it up when it really, really needs to happen is fine, but not catering to everyone's once a week desire to lay their mark on the city with destruction."


An enormous man with caramel-kissed skin states, "My church burning was the first. Lets be honest"

An enormous man with caramel-kissed skin grins.


Haeva Soler claims, "People should have an ability to avoid the plot, either by being smart, or rolling well, or something"

Kinaed asks of Maxwell le Wattkil, "Easier than building, I suppose?"




Karrina ab Vazien says, "And no major affects to such things as weather, like making it a tropical paradise in Lithmore."


Maxwell le Wattkil says, "...I'd like to see a water, earth, and air mage collaborate and make Lithmore into a tropical paradise temporarily."


Haeva Soler states, "Actually, I'd like to say, no killing without consent through the plot system"


A dark-haired man in his mid twenties claims, "How would this example be handled? A bank robbery. At one time Kink suggested it as an RP / RPA idea for the brotherhood. Unfortunately once we tried to do it the RPA staff refused to participate and said it would never happen. "


A fair haired Lithmorran man states, "Or bring a hurricane down"


Kinaed says, "I think we may want to put some things in about anyone who wants to destroy something needs to build something of equal stature first. That might cut down on wild destuctive desires."

Kinaed wonders to a dark-haired man in his mid twenties, "Seriously? Just flat refused?"


Haeva Soler muses, "No circumventing the rules of magic?"


A dark-haired man in his mid twenties states, "I'm just saying there needs to be set rules on how it's handled once a plot is approved."

Roewina Rosencarth claims to Kinaed, "Not ones that -want- to build things :P"

A dark-haired man in his mid twenties nods.


Kinaed says, "Often what players take for refusal is 'gotta do x, y, z before that will happen' and players going 'that's too hard, staff said no'."

Kinaed nods at Haeva Soler.


Kinaed claims, "Btw, this isn't approving plots."


A fair haired Lithmorran man asks, "Well. Was the bank heist thoroughly planned? Like did the brotherhood mention how they'd do it, what they'd use, and the manpower involved?"

Emma ab Courtland looks at a book in her hands.


A fair haired Lithmorran man says, "Or'd they just say 'I wanna rob the bank'"


Kinaed claims, "This is acknowedging adn bringing the consequences to plots people have done to life. And awarding them for creating them."

Emma ab Courtland looks at a book in her hands.


Kinaed claims, "If you put up a plot the staff don't want to bring to life or equip, we just won't, but it doesn't mean your RP is invalid."

Zeita von Zarrova looks at a book in her hands.

Kinaed claims, "Maybe the biggest issue is just saying 'staff might do nothing to further your plot'."



Kinaed says, "Okay, we have more topics and only 8 minutes. Sorry for delaying, folks."


A fair haired Lithmorran man doesn't mind it going over a bit if nobody else does, what with the time constraints.


Kinaed wonders, "Player Topic:

We should probably inform people that the Knights and Order split, since that was a concern

Any questions about this?"


Kinaed claims, "Nedyra said he'd write an Announce Post about it after this meeting is over."


Zeita von Zarrova queries, "It is already up, isn't it?"


Nedyra claims, "It is."


Kinaed says, "I didn't see it go up. Nevermind, I'll close this item."


Karrina ab Vazien states, "Way to be proactive Neddy."


Haeva Soler pats Nedyra


Nedyra trails off, "It was there, I was there..."


Nedyra shrugs.


Kinaed claims, "Another topic, from tells:

Oh, another thing that might want to be talked about. The troubadours don't really have either a Poet Laudate, or a Poet Knight that can run things."


Kinaed says, "Yeah, there's no one on GL for Troub GL."


Maxwell le Wattkil trails off, "...I wish we had someone creative enough to Troub..."


Kinaed says, "Standard operating procedure is to offer the role to current guild members."


Haeva Soler claims, "I doubt that is the problem"

say How many troubadors do we actually have at the moment?

Tomas asks, "How many troubadors do we actually have at the moment?"
(This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)


Zeita von Zarrova states, "I could do it if nobody else wants to. (and someone wants to step in as GMagnate)."


Kinaed states, "If no one jumps on it, we'll open it to apps."


Haeva Soler wonders, "How many active bards are there?"

Kinaed claims to Zeita von Zarrova, "Let's wait til I can speak with the Troubs first."


Kinaed states, "Right now, four."


Haeva Soler claims, "More than the order"

Zeita von Zarrova claims to Kinaed, "Ok. Troubs are important to me."

Kinaed nods at Zeita von Zarrova.


Kinaed says, "I love them too."


Kinaed questions, "Okay, I don't have any more topics to bring up - any last things from anyone?"


Kinaed claims, "Please, if someone is willing to write a review on The Mud Connector, I'd appreciate it."


Haeva Soler claims, "I'll do one"


Roewina Rosencarth pontificates, "OH! I almost forgot to mention, if the market doesn't run super late, there will be the story tonight, and if it does run late, then it will be on for tomorrow night"


Azarial says, "Please vote, too. we hit 16th on tmc, but fell back again"

Roewina Rosencarth has lost link.

Roewina Rosencarth has reconnected.


Kinaed says, "Also, please vote daily if you're willing to. It'll help push us up the ranks on the mud sites and attract more people to RP with. I know that you might not feel we're the best ever, but if you do spend time RPing here, voting is a great way to help make the game better."


Roewina Rosencarth declares, "OH! I almost forgot to mention, if the market doesn't run super late, there will be the story tonight, and if it does run late, then it will be on for tomorrow night"

Kinaed smiles.


Kinaed declaims, "Okay, thanks for coming everyone! Share those Plot Command ledgers with your friends!"